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Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:46 pm**

Hi sorry for the Noob question, looking at ordering some wheels from Farsports shop.

Has anyone used the $50 euro zone duty prepaid option at checkout? Is it accepted by customs in the UK or do you still end up paying duty on the receiving end?

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:09 pm**

ive used with lightbicycle about 2 months ago no tax to pay in uk and no problems i would think it the same for farsport

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:09 pm**

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Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:08 pm**

Is this Kaze worth around 200$ more (same hub) than this Alps wheels on their web:

https://www.wheelsfar.com/50mm-x-25mm-c ... 25t-2.html

What width is recomended for 25mm tyres?

This cheaper (Alps series) ones, is that "U" or "V" shape?

Just for info, did Farsports have better quality check than Light Bicycle?
Between this two brands, which one is better?

But, my main question is did Kaze worth this around 200$ more for same depth, same hubs?
Is that 200$ more for better breaking surface, better quality check...?

Did Alps series have ok breaking surface or Kaze is much better with this new breaking surface (and what is after all that HMX and ATA breakin surface?)?
On Alps is basalt breaking surface?

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:34 pm**

I have had that exact wheelset in the link since January. They have been great. Braking in the wet was horrible at first but since then I think my pads have bedded in and I've gotten used to the rims.

I'm running 25mm GP4000s which stretch to about 27mm. Yes, I know there is a small aero penalty for that but you can barely tell that the tire is wider than the rim. If the roads were smoother around here I'd use 23mm tires that stretched to 25mm.

Farsports seems to have no information on their web site with regards to HMX and ATA. All I see are little slits cut into the top layer of resin like Campagnolo does. Maybe they go deeper? I don't think they could possibly be worth an extra $200.

Posted: **Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:31 pm**

Thanks Colnago.

New Kaze wheels are wider (around 28 mm) and they have that new breaking surface.
You can get them with that marble effect but I'm more for classic 3k look or something similar.
I'm using 25mm tyres on my Bianchi (for now there is some default trash of Vittoria that I get them with bike but with new wheels I'm buying new tyres. What ones? Depends of what wheels I will take and what width will have wheels. I have really great experience with Continental GP 4000 but yes, they are wide around 27-28 mm in 25C version. They have that baloon look but they are great.).
In my case, I don't know if is ok to take wider rim than tyre?
It will be great if Farsports support can tell us here why is new wheels around 200$ more expensive and really, what is that HMX and ATA breaking surface?
I see like all others, just new patern on breaking surface and marble effect.
Did your Alps have basalt breaking surface?
What hub is on your wheels and what pads are you put on bike?

Posted: **Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:01 pm**

I have the same wheels in the link. I'm using Campagnolo red pads.

One thing I would caution people on is buying a tubeless rim for using with non-tubeless tires. It takes 120psi to seat a GP4000 on this rim. I have yet to experience this on the road side but I fear that I may end up with a wobbly tire after a flat because my mini pump can't get to 120psi. Maybe a good amount of talc on the tube would help the tire seat with less pressure.

That said, I'm going to try the GP5000 tubeless next and see how that goes.

Posted: **Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:39 pm**

Been using farsports 50mm tubeless wheelset no holes in rim bead for about 3months 600ks or so. No dramas at all, still run true.
Seem a good strong wheelset. Going to buy a second set maybe 30 or 38s in November when they have their 11/11/19 sale.

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Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:06 am**

rob01792 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:09 pm
ive used with lightbicycle about 2 months ago no tax to pay in uk and no problems i would think it the same for farsport

Yes, it's the same courier

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:09 am**

win32 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:31 pm
Thanks Colnago.

New Kaze wheels are wider (around 28 mm) and they have that new breaking surface.
You can get them with that marble effect but I'm more for classic 3k look or something similar.
I'm using 25mm tyres on my Bianchi (for now there is some default trash of Vittoria that I get them with bike but with new wheels I'm buying new tyres. What ones? Depends of what wheels I will take and what width will have wheels. I have really great experience with Continental GP 4000 but yes, they are wide around 27-28 mm in 25C version. They have that baloon look but they are great.).
In my case, I don't know if is ok to take wider rim than tyre?
It will be great if Farsports support can tell us here why is new wheels around 200$ more expensive and really, what is that HMX and ATA breaking surface?
I see like all others, just new patern on breaking surface and marble effect.
Did your Alps have basalt breaking surface?
What hub is on your wheels and what pads are you put on bike?

Rim cost is much higher since new material is used and ATA is made for the KAZE series. And Kaze Series only build with high end hubs to match the rims.

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:10 am**

win32 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:31 pm
Thanks Colnago.

New Kaze wheels are wider (around 28 mm) and they have that new breaking surface.
You can get them with that marble effect but I'm more for classic 3k look or something similar.
I'm using 25mm tyres on my Bianchi (for now there is some default trash of Vittoria that I get them with bike but with new wheels I'm buying new tyres. What ones? Depends of what wheels I will take and what width will have wheels. I have really great experience with Continental GP 4000 but yes, they are wide around 27-28 mm in 25C version. They have that baloon look but they are great.).
In my case, I don't know if is ok to take wider rim than tyre?
It will be great if Farsports support can tell us here why is new wheels around 200$ more expensive and really, what is that HMX and ATA breaking surface?
I see like all others, just new patern on breaking surface and marble effect.
Did your Alps have basalt breaking surface?
What hub is on your wheels and what pads are you put on bike?

Rim cost is much higher since new material is used and ATA is made for the KAZE series. And Kaze Series only build with high end hubs to match the rims.

Posted: **Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:56 pm**

Odered wheelset lastweek 30mm x 28mm dt350 disc brake lets hope they live up to the hype got a set ofLB 46mm very good but needed something shallower for windy decents

Posted: **Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:08 pm**

rob01792 wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:56 pm
Odered wheelset lastweek 30mm x 28mm dt350 disc brake lets hope they live up to the hype got a set ofLB 46mm very good but needed something shallower for windy decents

Please post pics and weights when you get them, I'm looking at the same set. Thanks!

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:40 am**

rides4beer wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:08 pm

rob01792 wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:56 pm
Odered wheelset lastweek 30mm x 28mm dt350 disc brake lets hope they live up to the hype got a set ofLB 46mm very good but needed something shallower for windy decents
Please post pics and weights when you get them, I'm looking at the same set. Thanks!

It's around 1440g/set+/-30g for 24H/24H Version. DT240S version will be 50g/set lighter

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:59 pm**

farsportssandy wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:40 am

rides4beer wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:08 pm

rob01792 wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:56 pm
Odered wheelset lastweek 30mm x 28mm dt350 disc brake lets hope they live up to the hype got a set ofLB 46mm very good but needed something shallower for windy decents
Please post pics and weights when you get them, I'm looking at the same set. Thanks!
It's around 1440g/set+/-30g for 24H/24H Version. DT240S version will be 50g/set lighter

According to your guys on aliexpress and your website claimed weight is 1420g but there again they keep changing they story regarding shipping so i will wait and see

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:38 am**

rob01792 wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:59 pm

farsportssandy wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:40 am

rides4beer wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:08 pm

rob01792 wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:56 pm
Odered wheelset lastweek 30mm x 28mm dt350 disc brake lets hope they live up to the hype got a set ofLB 46mm very good but needed something shallower for windy decents
Please post pics and weights when you get them, I'm looking at the same set. Thanks!
It's around 1440g/set+/-30g for 24H/24H Version. DT240S version will be 50g/set lighter
According to your guys on aliexpress and your website claimed weight is 1420g but there again they keep changing they story regarding shipping so i will wait and see

Yes, without spoke holes, it's 20g-30g/set heavier, but no need rim tape. So the weight we calculated is similar.
Shipping to Europe, we normally use duty prepaid service, our forwarder will pay the tax/duty.

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:38 am**

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