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Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:19 pm
by tomcooling25
In the market for a new set of wheels and I've come across the spin on these wheels from Spin Industries.

They look great but i'm concerned that they could be well built badged up open mold rims from lightbicycle or farsport etc...
Any thoughts?

Do any of you have them and if so what are they like?

Cheers

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:33 pm
by ancker
Neat graphics. Terrible website. Questionable claims.

They are probably no better or worse than any other carbon wheels. Lightbicycle and Farsports are pretty well regarded, so if they are just rebadged, good, except you're probably paying a lot more for fancy stickers.

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:33 pm
by Weenie

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:09 pm
by F45
The last time I used the term "spin on these" was not in the context of bicycle riding. :lol:

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:47 pm
by Marin
tomcooling25 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:19 pm
could be well built badged up open mold rims from lightbicycle or farsport
If that's the case you'd be lucky since LB and Farsports produce some of the best rims in the world, and you should consider buying direct from them instead. Spinonthese are probably sourcing from less reputable manufactureres though.

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:35 pm
by AJS914
It seems obvious that they don't have a carbon fiber wheel factory in the UK. They might have their own molds with rims being made in China or Taiwan.

Their 58mm deep 28mm wide rims look a lot like Farsports. This company is a bit stingy with close up pictures of the rims, there are no pictures of the cross section, and they don't even tell you the internal width of the rim in the specs. The hubs look like oem Bitex to me.

They may build much better wheels than LB or Farsports and provide much better warranty and service. Is it worth more than twice the price? It's hard to say.

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:47 pm
by diegogarcia
I have both the 45mm and the 58mm SL version wheels and absolutely love them.

Strong, stiff, fast, light, smooth, good looking but above all very very safe. Never been caught by winds, side or otherwise and instill so much confidence in me as a rider. Drew the owner / wheel builder a sterling chap and knows his lemons.

Ulimately, not bothered if they are rebadged tawainese or chinese wheels they all come from the same place. I have Giant SLR0 climbing wheels and my mate has Enve 2.2 and up close they are effectively the same wheels in our opinions.

Inherently better than any Zipp wheels I have ridden historically and this includes 303, 404 and 808 on my TT bike.

Nice one.

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:03 pm
by Karvalo
diegogarcia wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:47 pm
Drew the owner / wheel builder a sterling chap and knows his lemons.

Ulimately, not bothered if they are rebadged tawainese or chinese wheels they all come from the same place.
He might be a sterling chap in person, but if they are rebadged Taiwanese/Chinese rims and hubs then he’s outright lying about his company all across his website, which (IMO of course) isn’t a sterling way to do business.

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:31 pm
by bm0p700f
It's quite a bold claim to say you have the only wheel on the market designed for 25mm tyres. It's also wrong. The hubs don't have the STD bitex hub shel but the freehub description is of a bitex design. So at the very least they have bitex internals. If it's not bitex then someone has copied there pawl ratchet arrangement of 2 groups of 3 pawls.

The one thing I did notice is there is no description of what spokes are used.

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:55 pm
by diegogarcia
Karvalo wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:03 pm
diegogarcia wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:47 pm
Drew the owner / wheel builder a sterling chap and knows his lemons.

Ulimately, not bothered if they are rebadged tawainese or chinese wheels they all come from the same place.
He might be a sterling chap in person, but if they are rebadged Taiwanese/Chinese rims and hubs then he’s outright lying about his company all across his website, which (IMO of course) isn’t a sterling way to do business.
Was saying not bothered as happy with the product. Before you send the internet police in he may well be producing his own stuff. Good luck to the bloke. Great wheels in a sea of crap.

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:57 pm
by diegogarcia
bm0p700f wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:31 pm
It's quite a bold claim to say you have the only wheel on the market designed for 25mm tyres. It's also wrong. The hubs don't have the STD bitex hub shel but the freehub description is of a bitex design. So at the very least they have bitex internals. If it's not bitex then someone has copied there pawl ratchet arrangement of 2 groups of 3 pawls.

The one thing I did notice is there is no description of what spokes are used.
He machines his own spokes. Look up the Francis Cade video 'the fastest race wheels' on you tube.

https://youtu.be/QJUL4KEeGW8

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:26 am
by AJS914
All he is doing is cutting the spokes to length and adding the threads. I've heard of other wheelbuilders doing this so that they don't have to stock a million sizes of spokes.

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:58 am
by bm0p700f
Yes spin on will be cutting and threading spokes. they wont be making the spokes from scratch. There is one U.K spoke manufacturer that I know of, central wheel components and they make either cheap plain guage spokes for bicycles or motorcycle spokes.

The brand and type of spoke is still absent from the product specifiation. We cant tell the guage, shape or anything except they are silver. They could be Sapim, DT Swiss, alpina, pillar, CN or something else that we have never heard of. The owner should add this to the website.

I get my spokes from sapim in bags of 500 to lengths I need. That saves me the time cutting and threading which for one spoke is not long but add it up over the year means Id rather have sapim do it.

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:39 am
by GothicCastle
Are they really building with steel nipples (not brass)?

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:13 am
by bm0p700f
The product description said Sapim alloy nipples.

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:26 am
by diegogarcia
bm0p700f wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:58 am
Yes spin on will be cutting and threading spokes. they wont be making the spokes from scratch. There is one U.K spoke manufacturer that I know of, central wheel components and they make either cheap plain guage spokes for bicycles or motorcycle spokes.

The brand and type of spoke is still absent from the product specifiation. We cant tell the guage, shape or anything except they are silver. They could be Sapim, DT Swiss, alpina, pillar, CN or something else that we have never heard of. The owner should add this to the website.

I get my spokes from sapim in bags of 500 to lengths I need. That saves me the time cutting and threading which for one spoke is not long but add it up over the year means Id rather have sapim do it.
Fair enough. So your wheels are part hand built then ? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

All jokes aside, lets say credit to the guy as he is building exceptional wheels.

Lets try not to turn this into another weight weenies aggressive bun fight as that is all this forum seems to be of late. I know better than you etc etc. I realise wheelbuilders all chase the same £ but his customer service, knowledge, website and product are to my mind excellent. As before as sum of all the parts and academic as to if sourced from indo china, mesopotamia, North Macedonia or Swaziland, what is is.

In terms of his wheels, I can only speak for myself when I say I am delighted, they are built to my requirements with sapim cx ray as requested and compared to other wheels I have had, including zipp, mavic, FFWD and so on they are easily as good, if not better but better is subjective and for some the sticker on the rim is the important bit. My 404's firecrest had such poor performance in the wind it was frightening and my 303 rear kept de-tuning itself.

Re: Spin on These open mold?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:26 am
by Weenie