Reynolds AR Series Wheels - AR58/62

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Does anyone have any experience with the new Reynolds AR Series wheels, specifically the AR58/62 disc? They can be had from Reynolds for under $1k with the holiday sails and look like a great deal. 58mm deep front with 19mm internal and 62mm rear with 21mm internal. Perhaps a little heavy at just over 1700 grams, but that could likley be improved down the road with CX-rays and lighter hubs. They us Reynold's "TR3" hubs, which look like decent straight-pull jobs, but I can't find any further info on them. I'd love to hear someon who's ridden any of the AR wheels or at least seen them in person.
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by neeb

It's weird that these wheels have been out for some time now but there is almost no information on or reviews of them.

They seem to be Reynold's attempt at a budget carbon deep-section wheel that follows all of the current trends, but bucks their own established designs (which are actually very good). Came across this thread as I've just bought a pair of used Reynolds Aero 58s, which are brilliant wheels but completely different to the AR58s (which is a little confusing as AR could be wrongly taken to be an abbreviation of Aero).

The Reynolds Aero wheels were (still are) mid- to high-end wheels using the DET profile, which is externally wide with a curved shape, but coming to a sharp V at the bottom, in contrast to the trend for rounded profile rims such as zipp etc. I can personally vouch for the fact that they are very fast and great in crosswinds - from what I've read both the Reynolds DET profile and rounded profiles such as zipp firecrest are founded on sound aerodynamic principles but work in completely different ways.

- The older Aero 58s I've got (not the latest model) have the DET profile, 26.5 external width and 16mm internal width. Although the 16mm internal is narrower than currently fashionable it actually works really well for clinchers aerodynamically, keeping them pretty much at stated width when mounted and well within the 105% rule. The wheels also have low spoke counts (16/20). They're great! I run them with 23mm clinchers at 100/95psi although they are suprisingly comfortable even with those tyres and very aero. I guess you could put 25mm tyres on and sill just scrape within the 105% rule.

- The current model Aero wheels (e.g. the Aero 65) also have the pionty DET profile but are 28mm externally and 19 internally. They have more spokes (18/24). I guess that 23mm and 25mm tyres on this wider 19mm internal profile would measure something like 25mm and 27mm and so provide similar interface with the 28mm external profile as the older 16mm internal width does with the 26.5mm external profile, but with more air volume if that's your thing. I'd be curious to know if they are actually faster than the older model when fitted with the same tyres however, given the larger frontal area and greater spoke count - maybe it would depend on the road surface, Cr and rider weight?

- The AR58s (and other AR models) seem to be entry-level wheels and have the rounded firecrest-type profile instead of the DET profile. They are 100g heavier than both the current and the older Aero models, have still more spokes on the front (20/24), and like the current generation Aeros are 28mm externally and 19mm internally. My guess is that they are aimed at the less discerning customer who just wants whatever is on-trend (wide internal, rounded profile), while Reynolds keep the arguably superior DET profile for their high-end wheels. The only review I've found of the AR58s (a review of a Canyon bike to which they were fitted) suggests that they are terrible in crosswinds and heavy feeling, which is the exact opposite of the Aero 58s..

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by calleking

neeb wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 1:19 pm
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Great reply neeb. Currently looking for a ~$1500 wheelset for a mate. Stumbled upon the 58/62AR combo but seems like a bad idea. Bora One 50 clinchers are still my top pick. To be continued... :D
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