vejnemojnen wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:00 pmAerycs?
https://www.aerycs-shop.de/de/Laufraede ... -aero.html
https://www.aerycs-shop.de/de/Laufraede ... -aero.html
Aaahh! Interesting! Gonna have a good look at these!
Thanks for the tip!
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vejnemojnen wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:00 pmAerycs?
https://www.aerycs-shop.de/de/Laufraede ... -aero.html
https://www.aerycs-shop.de/de/Laufraede ... -aero.html
Veloflex say the maximum internal rim width to use safely with their 25mm clinchers is 17c....
Interesting.
On my ardenne + wheelset i tried vittoria corsa, pirelli pzero velo, and conti ultra sport 23, schwalbe one tubeless and they all measured 26.99 new.Hex wrote:25mm Pro Ones.
On my wheels, 25mm Pro Ones are ~27.5mm when new, 28mm solid after about 300km.
25mm Veloflex come up to 25mm solid...bit shy of 25mm when new.
Do Plus rims really widen tires that much? That's about 5mm from spec.
I imagine that 25mm Veloflexes would behave like the 23mm Pro Ones
On this post:Stitchking wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:26 pmOn my ardenne + wheelset i tried vittoria corsa, pirelli pzero velo, and conti ultra sport 23, schwalbe one tubeless and they all measured 26.99 new.Hex wrote:25mm Pro Ones.
On my wheels, 25mm Pro Ones are ~27.5mm when new, 28mm solid after about 300km.
25mm Veloflex come up to 25mm solid...bit shy of 25mm when new.
Do Plus rims really widen tires that much? That's about 5mm from spec.
I imagine that 25mm Veloflexes would behave like the 23mm Pro Ones
I test fit some 25 pro ones and they measured 29mm.
If you have tight frame tolerances i wouldn't reccomend going over 19mm wide as those tyres were basically stretched onto the rim at 23c, and you really want 25 or larger.
Honestly, i think choosing a rim Based on the fact that a veloflex tyre is measured at what it says it is on the sidewall is pretty pedantic. That probably just means theyre just measuring them to a different standard than everyone else and you could just size down on any other tyre and the carcass will be the same volume
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Just a different way of measuring/adversiting their width. The actual width is what matters and I think they want to offer "common 25mm" but going with their own measurements, so 28mm is what most of us consider 25mm tyres (from conti, michelin, schwalbe, etc)silvalis wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:42 amInteresting.
So I guess if I throw some 25mm veloflex corsas onto some 17c rims (or even my old 15c R3s) they will come up smaller than expected and nowhere near the 26-27mm I get from other popular tyres.
That's a bit off putting, in the opposite direction to yours
I see! But then what would be the standard/measurement used by veloflex?Stitchking wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:17 pmIirc the tyre measurement standard is what they will inflate too on a 700x15 rim, hence why most brands end up wider than stated.
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looks eerily the same as YEOLEO's carbon alloy wheels.Hex wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:48 pmI've come across these guys recently:
https://www.uk.kinetic-one.com/carbonal ... s-94-c.asp
Anyone with experience on these?
Veloflex run true to size. The inner rim width irrelevant for these tires. The reason you want these on narrow rim is because of cotton casing (e.g. open tubular), sidewalls are not reinforced which put you in higher risk of tire rolling off the rim. I have been racing on 25mm Master. Fantastic tire but can’t wait to mount 28mm Master for 2019 season.Hex wrote:I see! But then what would be the standard/measurement used by veloflex?Stitchking wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:17 pmIirc the tyre measurement standard is what they will inflate too on a 700x15 rim, hence why most brands end up wider than stated.
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Not pointing or snaring, just wondering because they always come smaller than the more mainstream offerings.
I'm Def looking forward mounting the 28s for sure!mpulsiv wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:17 amVeloflex run true to size. The inner rim width irrelevant for these tires. The reason you want these on narrow rim is because of cotton casing (e.g. open tubular), sidewalls are not reinforced which put you in higher risk of tire rolling off the rim. I have been racing on 25mm Master. Fantastic tire but can’t wait to mount 28mm Master for 2019 season.Hex wrote:I see! But then what would be the standard/measurement used by veloflex?Stitchking wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:17 pmIirc the tyre measurement standard is what they will inflate too on a 700x15 rim, hence why most brands end up wider than stated.
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Not pointing or snaring, just wondering because they always come smaller than the more mainstream offerings.
Aha! Nice! Thanks! Looks like the difference is Kinetic-one give you more hub choice, but Yoeleo seems only slightly more affordable.MagicShite wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:01 amlooks eerily the same as YEOLEO's carbon alloy wheels.Hex wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:48 pmI've come across these guys recently:
https://www.uk.kinetic-one.com/carbonal ... s-94-c.asp
Anyone with experience on these?
I'd say grab the YEOLEO's instead.
I have indeed been looking into this. I have considered it. It does help I live in relatively dry and warm weather, making braking not much of an issue if any, but I may end up using latex tubes and Veloflex strongly recommends against using their clinchers with carbon rims.alcatraz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:15 amA heavy friend of mine (95-100kg) running sram red brake calipers used to run alloy+carbon fairing bontrager wheels. When his rear wheel gave up its ghost and had to have it's rim replaced we after much consideration went with carbon. Knowing that the braking performance would be unimpressive he never got fully used to it and often thought about changing the whole bike and disc brakes.
Now a few weeks later it's less of an issue because he went through a couple of brake pads. Believe it or not but there is an ongoing evolution of brake pads with great progress. He switched to carbstop and says he can now lock his wheel in the rain if he wants. He stopped dreaming of disc brakes and now descends with confidence again. Another happy carbon all-weather convert. (I'd like to add that the reason his alloy rim had to be replaced was just because it was alloy soft and got too deformed.)