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Thanks for the answer. I wanted to use 28c tires with these. I get that that takes it out of the 105% rule. Would i lose too many watts aero wise if i use 28c instead of 25c?hartmannce wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:22 amHave this 21/28mm variant of AR56 rim with disc brake hubs. 2mm of rim width IMHO is not that important, because I use 25c tires only. 25c GP5000TL sit nicely and that's what I wantedVeto wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:14 amI was looking to get the AR56 rim brake wheels but their 30mm external width was too much for my brake calipers. Then i was offered a custom version of AR56 with 28mm external width which is not featured on the website. Is there any reason i shouldn't get these? I know the regular AR56 has really good reviews but would making them thinner mess with the dynamics or make it worse in some way? That's the question i have.
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Don`t know really, and I hardly believe that the figure will be more than 2 or 3 watts.Veto wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:27 pmThanks for the answer. I wanted to use 28c tires with these. I get that that takes it out of the 105% rule. Would i lose too many watts aero wise if i use 28c instead of 25c?hartmannce wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:22 amHave this 21/28mm variant of AR56 rim with disc brake hubs. 2mm of rim width IMHO is not that important, because I use 25c tires only. 25c GP5000TL sit nicely and that's what I wantedVeto wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:14 amI was looking to get the AR56 rim brake wheels but their 30mm external width was too much for my brake calipers. Then i was offered a custom version of AR56 with 28mm external width which is not featured on the website. Is there any reason i shouldn't get these? I know the regular AR56 has really good reviews but would making them thinner mess with the dynamics or make it worse in some way? That's the question i have.
Thanks. I'll order the AR56 28mm tonight.hartmannce wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:36 pmDon`t know really, and I hardly believe that the figure will be more than 2 or 3 watts.Veto wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:27 pmThanks for the answer. I wanted to use 28c tires with these. I get that that takes it out of the 105% rule. Would i lose too many watts aero wise if i use 28c instead of 25c?hartmannce wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:22 amHave this 21/28mm variant of AR56 rim with disc brake hubs. 2mm of rim width IMHO is not that important, because I use 25c tires only. 25c GP5000TL sit nicely and that's what I wantedVeto wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:14 amI was looking to get the AR56 rim brake wheels but their 30mm external width was too much for my brake calipers. Then i was offered a custom version of AR56 with 28mm external width which is not featured on the website. Is there any reason i shouldn't get these? I know the regular AR56 has really good reviews but would making them thinner mess with the dynamics or make it worse in some way? That's the question i have.
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My 32mm Rene Herse extra lights measure close to 35mm on my WR38s.
Yesterday I tried a 28mm RH EL (31mm measured) on the front wheel to see if wind stability would improve. It wasn't bad but I just wanted to try it. Here my non scientific personal impressions:
Wind stability: +35%
Comfort: -15%
Stirring/ Handling: +15%
And the illusion of being 105% more aero on the front wheel
I prefered the comfort of the 32mm tire but all in all I feel that the 28mm tire is the better choice.
Yesterday I tried a 28mm RH EL (31mm measured) on the front wheel to see if wind stability would improve. It wasn't bad but I just wanted to try it. Here my non scientific personal impressions:
Wind stability: +35%
Comfort: -15%
Stirring/ Handling: +15%
And the illusion of being 105% more aero on the front wheel
I prefered the comfort of the 32mm tire but all in all I feel that the 28mm tire is the better choice.
one of each?
Here's a GP5k 25/28 on AR46 (28mm wide) - note the rims are are ~1.5mm wider in the middle than indicated at the rim edge. https://i.imgur.com/7DRNHia.jpg
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Hey all, currently building a gravel/endurance road bike and having a hard time choosing between the AR56 and WR45 for a set of road wheels.
I'd like to run 25mm or 28mm tubeless vittoria corsa G+ 2.0s so I think either wheel is workable from a tire perpsective.
It seems to me that the AR56 will have more aero advantages given hambinis ratings and the fact that the WR45's are practically as wide (32mm) as they are deep.
I also absolutely love how the AR56 wheels look in LB's gallery, but I'm not sure how they'll look on my frame (Carbonda CFR 696).
This is my first time spending more than $300 on a wheelset so I'm probably overthinking this.
Either way I'll probably go DT swiss 350 hubs with cx-ray spokes.
Any advice on which way to go?
edit: clarified tire specs.
I'd like to run 25mm or 28mm tubeless vittoria corsa G+ 2.0s so I think either wheel is workable from a tire perpsective.
It seems to me that the AR56 will have more aero advantages given hambinis ratings and the fact that the WR45's are practically as wide (32mm) as they are deep.
I also absolutely love how the AR56 wheels look in LB's gallery, but I'm not sure how they'll look on my frame (Carbonda CFR 696).
This is my first time spending more than $300 on a wheelset so I'm probably overthinking this.
Either way I'll probably go DT swiss 350 hubs with cx-ray spokes.
Any advice on which way to go?
edit: clarified tire specs.
I also have a CFR696. I have WR50 wheels and I was running Corsa G2.0 28mm tubeless. If this is your only bike then AR56 with 25 tyres is a good solution. 28mm tyres look a bit small when looking front-on but from an angle or the side it looks fine.weeniewiener wrote:Hey all, currently building a gravel/endurance road bike and having a hard time choosing between the AR56 and WR45 for a set of road wheels.
I'd like to run 25mm or 28mm tubeless vittoria corsa G+ 2.0s so I think either wheel is workable from a tire perpsective.
It seems to me that the AR56 will have more aero advantages given hambinis ratings and the fact that the WR45's are practically as wide (32mm) as they are deep.
I also absolutely love how the AR56 wheels look in LB's gallery, but I'm not sure how they'll look on my frame (Carbonda CFR 696).
This is my first time spending more than $300 on a wheelset so I'm probably overthinking this.
Either way I'll probably go DT swiss 350 hubs with cx-ray spokes.
Any advice on which way to go?
edit: clarified tire specs.
I also have a TCR for 100% road bike rides, so I have moved to 32mm tyres on the WR50 and really enjoy longer rides on this setup and descending twisty roads with the extra confidence from the wider tyres.
I’ve tried the CFR696 with the WR65 off my TCR. I’ve GASS these wheels for 3 months and now the WR50 don’t look deep anymore. I think the AR56 depth would look great.
Thanks, that's an informative picture. Pro One are a bit narrower than GP5000, so I guess both would sit fine on AR55. I've been reading through the whole thread and it seems like no one really knows which is faster of the AR55 and AR56. Leaning towards the 55 since it's a newer design, but it also is a bit more expensive. Equals about the same as DT Swiss 350 vs 240, so not sure where the money are best spent.jfranci3 wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 9:31 pmone of each?
Here's a GP5k 25/28 on AR46 (28mm wide) - note the rims are are ~1.5mm wider in the middle than indicated at the rim edge. https://i.imgur.com/7DRNHia.jpg
If they released an AR555, that would tip the scale for sure.
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Everywhere I read, the DT350s stands for good performing reliability. The weight difference between 350 and 240 is not that important as it's not rotating mass. I'd go for the 350s and spend the money somewhere else.
I've ordered a set of AR56 wheels with the help from here which i'm thankful for. I will be using these with Vittoria latex tube which have 48mm valves. So, i need some valve extenders. Are 30mm extenders will be enough for these or should i go for 40mm ones?
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Thanks emotive, those pics look sick. Made the decision easy. I found some AR56 with dt swiss' older 240s hubs on LB's clearance page and hit buy.emotive wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 11:13 amI also have a CFR696. I have WR50 wheels and I was running Corsa G2.0 28mm tubeless. If this is your only bike then AR56 with 25 tyres is a good solution. 28mm tyres look a bit small when looking front-on but from an angle or the side it looks fine.weeniewiener wrote:Hey all, currently building a gravel/endurance road bike and having a hard time choosing between the AR56 and WR45 for a set of road wheels.
I'd like to run 25mm or 28mm tubeless vittoria corsa G+ 2.0s so I think either wheel is workable from a tire perpsective.
It seems to me that the AR56 will have more aero advantages given hambinis ratings and the fact that the WR45's are practically as wide (32mm) as they are deep.
I also absolutely love how the AR56 wheels look in LB's gallery, but I'm not sure how they'll look on my frame (Carbonda CFR 696).
This is my first time spending more than $300 on a wheelset so I'm probably overthinking this.
Either way I'll probably go DT swiss 350 hubs with cx-ray spokes.
Any advice on which way to go?
edit: clarified tire specs.
I also have a TCR for 100% road bike rides, so I have moved to 32mm tyres on the WR50 and really enjoy longer rides on this setup and descending twisty roads with the extra confidence from the wider tyres.
I’ve tried the CFR696 with the WR65 off my TCR. I’ve GASS these wheels for 3 months and now the WR50 don’t look deep anymore. I think the AR56 depth would look great.
Sweet bike by the way.
Cheers. Look forward to seeing your build when it’s rolling.weeniewiener wrote:Thanks emotive, those pics look sick. Made the decision easy. I found some AR56 with dt swiss' older 240s hubs on LB's clearance page and hit buy.emotive wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 11:13 amI also have a CFR696. I have WR50 wheels and I was running Corsa G2.0 28mm tubeless. If this is your only bike then AR56 with 25 tyres is a good solution. 28mm tyres look a bit small when looking front-on but from an angle or the side it looks fine.weeniewiener wrote:Hey all, currently building a gravel/endurance road bike and having a hard time choosing between the AR56 and WR45 for a set of road wheels.
I'd like to run 25mm or 28mm tubeless vittoria corsa G+ 2.0s so I think either wheel is workable from a tire perpsective.
It seems to me that the AR56 will have more aero advantages given hambinis ratings and the fact that the WR45's are practically as wide (32mm) as they are deep.
I also absolutely love how the AR56 wheels look in LB's gallery, but I'm not sure how they'll look on my frame (Carbonda CFR 696).
This is my first time spending more than $300 on a wheelset so I'm probably overthinking this.
Either way I'll probably go DT swiss 350 hubs with cx-ray spokes.
Any advice on which way to go?
edit: clarified tire specs.
I also have a TCR for 100% road bike rides, so I have moved to 32mm tyres on the WR50 and really enjoy longer rides on this setup and descending twisty roads with the extra confidence from the wider tyres.
I’ve tried the CFR696 with the WR65 off my TCR. I’ve GASS these wheels for 3 months and now the WR50 don’t look deep anymore. I think the AR56 depth would look great.
Sweet bike by the way.
If you use only screw on chuck, rim depth +5 is the minimum. I'm using S-Tubo 60mm on my WR50 with around 12mm of the stem sticking out.
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