Bora WTO

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slovenianbp
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by slovenianbp

I thought they were 1400g @33 depth, so decent allrounder thats capable of climbing.
Previously I had been looking into lighter clx 32, but they had already been sold out at official stores here, wouldn't want to warrant them outside country.

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Nohands83
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by Nohands83

Mine where abit lighter than 1500g, more like 1355g. But granted not anywhere near tubular wheel weights. Tbh if your doing hill climbs Corsa speed setup tubeless is about as fast as you can get, mine come in around 220g - so lighter than your turbo cottons. The 23mm will probably inflate to 24.5-25mm on the WTO. They are race day only tyres, I got about 25 TTs out of them last season on UK roads.

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guyc
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1395g according to the Campag site.

1496g for the 45's
1547g for the 60's

sychen
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by sychen

I think we are talking rim vs disc weights here..

My disc set came out 1520g with lock rings.

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roadchallenge
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by roadchallenge

1500vs 1400 shouldnt matter as long as it is same rim weight.

Weight for climbing is good, but stiffness is better, I would rather ride 1500g campy than 1100g noodle.

jeanjacques
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by jeanjacques

roadchallenge wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:57 pm
I would rather ride 1500g campy than 1100g noodle.
This argument is invalid, by today standard it's possible to have a very stiff 1100g wheelset. If I chose the WTO it's because I'm too cowardly to ride any other carbon rim brake wheelset.
When you buy Campy wheels, you buy peace of mind, but it cost weight: my front WTO 33 is 606g and rear 818g (Shimano freehub, Campagnolo is 2g lighter).

slovenianbp
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by slovenianbp

Yeah, sorry for the confusion, I was after rim version.
I am by no means a competitive racer, I just join climb events for fun and push for new PR's and battle I dont finish by end of the result list :wink:
If results were about to get better in time, I will surely buy additional climb specific wheeset. But for now I just need allrounder wheelset I can use as training wheels, race wheels and thats decent at climbing.

If it appears they are indeed too heavy for the steepest climbs, I could still setup my old alu set with latex tube and 20c supersonic tires.

sychen
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by sychen

slovenianbp wrote:Yeah, sorry for the confusion, I was after rim version.
I am by no means a competitive racer, I just join climb events for fun and push for new PR's and battle I dont finish by end of the result list :wink:
If results were about to get better in time, I will surely buy additional climb specific wheeset. But for now I just need allrounder wheelset I can use as training wheels, race wheels and thats decent at climbing.

If it appears they are indeed too heavy for the steepest climbs, I could still setup my old alu set with latex tube and 20c supersonic tires.
All good... I actually like climbing with my set over my clx50s. Weight isn't everything but depends on use case. As a all around set.. They are fantastic.

If not going for full competition hill climb set.. Then I would recommend it for everything else you don't need a deep set of wheels for.

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bruno2000
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by bruno2000

Oh man I'm so tempted to get some WTO33
I have a Canyon Ulmtimate CF evo frame of 700gr to go with a Super Record 12v mechanical group.
Currenly I have the Bora Ultra50 and 35 wheels, both clincher and I want to stick to Campâgnolo wheels.
(I weighted the Bora Ultra 35 lighter then the Lightweight C24 wheels I had but sold it because it was heavier and less comfortable)
Should I go with the wto 45 and 30 to replace the Ultra's? I wonder if both will be better allround wheels than the Ultra's. They are heavier but maybe stiffer and more aero?

robertbb
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by robertbb

jeanjacques wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:15 pm

When you buy Campy wheels, you buy peace of mind, but it cost weight: my front WTO 33 is 606g and rear 818g (Shimano freehub, Campagnolo is 2g lighter).
Jeez... that's 1424 grams. And a relatively shallow wheel... rim or disc?

That really makes me question whether the WTO33's are worth the investment.

My old Shamals were 1465 grams. Zondas are 1535.

jeanjacques
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by jeanjacques

Rim, slightly sub 1400g was already a questionable choice for a ww build !
But if you like few spoke front and rear, 2:1 lacing, some aero gain, great hub and peace of mind when you brake with latex tube, there isn't a lot of choice.

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by bruno2000

Can you use Latex tubes on Bora wheels?

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guyc
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I have been for about 3 years. No issues.

nismosr
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by nismosr

I just ordered a set of WTO 60 and it's on it way .. yay ..excited !
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Cycomanic
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by Cycomanic

Not sure if I ask in this thread or make a separate post.

The the freehub lock ring on my Bora 45 WTO disc has been loose (shop didn't do a good job I guess). So I've been trying to tighten it. I've been going off the technical manuals for the Bora Ultras, as there are no technical manuals for the WTOs on Campa's website (anyone now if the procedures should be the same?). When I try to use the UT-WHDB001 tool to counter the lock ring, the axle just speens because the diameter is just too large. What is the correct way to do this?

On another note, does anyone know which instructions to use for hub maintanance for the WTOs?

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