Bora WTO

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maxice
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Maximilian
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by Maximilian

Has anyone got any yet? I need to replace my damaged Mavic CC80s, whilst the Bora WTO aren't tubular I'm intigued by the aero credentials and relatively light weight for a 60mm clincher. In any case the are lighter than the Mavics.

ChrisV
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by ChrisV

Hi Max, mine arrived last week, they have yet to be tested as the weather here in the UK has been abysmal,
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I’ll post more info later when I’ve had a chance to ride them properly
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Wow!

Dat taping job tho :/ :D

ChrisV
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by ChrisV

Thanks, Cinelli Cork bar tape is my favourite;
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ChrisV
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by ChrisV

Here are some weights and comparisons for the Bora WTO & my old Bora Ultra with tub;
I’ve weighed the front wheel with the skewer attached without a tyre (700gr)
I’ve weighed it with a Schwalbe Pro One fitted (1kg),
The Old Bora Ultra with skewer & a Conti Attack tub fitted (900gr), There you go!
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Maximilian
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by Maximilian

Not that much weight in it really for 10mm deeper. Please update with a ride report! It is either a set of these or a used THM Clavicula and new EE G4 for the CAAD9. Or maybe a new frame...or Record 12sp... I cannot decide!

zappafile123
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Maximilian wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:44 pm
Not that much weight in it really for 10mm deeper. Please update with a ride report! It is either a set of these or a used THM Clavicula and new EE G4 for the CAAD9. Or maybe a new frame...or Record 12sp... I cannot decide!
I had my first ride on 12spd today. Shifting feels quicker on the rear - its really lightening fast. But its also sooooo noisey! Left hand shifting feels really stiff which is a bit of a let down, but otherwise its pretty much the same if ever so slightly better. All in all, early impression are that its a marginal refinement on 2015 SR. If I were you I'd get a new frame... and the Boras. EE brakes kinda suck and a light crankset isnt going to be something you're going to feel. Invest in things that will make the bike feel better. If 12spd isnt worth it, then that leaves wheels or a frame ;)

As for a frame, I must say... the SW Tarmac SL6 is very... very good.
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KotP
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ChrisV wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:23 am
Hi Max, mine arrived last week, they have yet to be tested as the weather here in the UK has been abysmal, 378A7537-10F7-4D0E-A47E-F776B0C79A8F.jpeg
Lovely looking wheels, is this instagramer trawling WW poaching your pics?


ChrisV
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by ChrisV

I got out on the Bora WTO’s on Friday when there was a break in the weather, it was 6deg C and wind gusting up to 40mph.
I’ll break down the ride report in two segments:

Braking;
Superb, great feel with the super record levers new record direct mount brakes & campag pads, as expected there is a nice rasping sound as you pull on the brakes with the new laser cut c shape braking surface (I expect they would chew up the softer compound pads like Swissstop?), the modulation stopping power is spot on (I am only 65kg though).

Handling;
It was a very windy day and they did catch the wind, what do you expect for a 60mm profile, nothing too scary though as the wind seemed to grab and then slip through so it’s not a wrestling match like the HED Trispoke on my TT rig, you can stay fairly relaxed once you get used to the feel.
At all times they felt really really fast and in some conditions/ wind directions it felt like I was getting a bit of a sail effect pushing me along.

I rode with a 28mm rear and 25mm front Schwalbe Pro One tubeless tyres with 80psi rear & 90psi front.
In conclusion I’m very happy with these wheels and feel they were worth the wait, Campagnolo have got these bang on, I can fully recommend them, yeah I know I’ve only had one ride on them but trust me that’s enough to know 😉
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Colnago C64-2018++BMC Timemachine TM01-2013++Litespeed T5 Gravel Ti-2016++Colnago Carbitubo-1991++Colnago Master-1986++Woodrup 653 Tubing Custom TT 700c rear 650c front- 1996++GT Avalanche

shamrock134
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by shamrock134

Nice 'Nago and photos!

What do the WTOs supposedly offer over the Bora 50 besides an extra 10mm?

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How wide are the tires when mounted?
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ChrisV
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by ChrisV

Hi Shamrock
I have an older set of Bora Ultra 50’s which have been brilliant, on my training bikes I’ve been using tubeless on my Shamal Ultra’s for about 10 years firstly with Hutchinson’s as they were all I could get hold of back then & now in recent years Schwalbe, so really for me it’s all about the tubeless factor.
I still race on tubulars though on my Time Trial bikes but for general riding on mixed terrain and sometimes crap road surfaces the tubeless option is best for me
In the Stable;
Colnago C64-2018++BMC Timemachine TM01-2013++Litespeed T5 Gravel Ti-2016++Colnago Carbitubo-1991++Colnago Master-1986++Woodrup 653 Tubing Custom TT 700c rear 650c front- 1996++GT Avalanche

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ChrisV wrote:I got out on the Bora WTO’s on Friday when there was a break in the weather, it was 6deg C and wind gusting up to 40mph.
I’ll break down the ride report in two segments:

Braking;
Superb, great feel with the super record levers new record direct mount brakes & campag pads, as expected there is a nice rasping sound as you pull on the brakes with the new laser cut c shape braking surface (I expect they would chew up the softer compound pads like Swissstop?), the modulation stopping power is spot on (I am only 65kg though).

Handling;
It was a very windy day and they did catch the wind, what do you expect for a 60mm profile, nothing too scary though as the wind seemed to grab and then slip through so it’s not a wrestling match like the HED Trispoke on my TT rig, you can stay fairly relaxed once you get used to the feel.
At all times they felt really really fast and in some conditions/ wind directions it felt like I was getting a bit of a sail effect pushing me along.

I rode with a 28mm rear and 25mm front Schwalbe Pro One tubeless tyres with 80psi rear & 90psi front.
In conclusion I’m very happy with these wheels and feel they were worth the wait, Campagnolo have got these bang on, I can fully recommend them, yeah I know I’ve only had one ride on them but trust me that’s enough to know Image
Thanks, very interesting review.

I’d buy them but - with my Colnago Concept - I’m experiencing problems with a carbon wheelset 25mm wide. My Colnago BR-1 DM brakes aren’t wide enough...


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