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guyc
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I forgot to weight my 60's and they're on the bike now so CBA to do it and take the tyres off etc. Like you all my Campag wheels have been a bit under so not really bothered!

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pdlpsher1 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:55 pm
kevinw wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:10 am
Also, just put a 2kg weight on the same scales and it came to nearer 2.1g so :noidea:
I would suspect that your scale is not accurate then. Because Campy/Fulcrum is known to be very conservative on advertised wheel weights (I don't know about component weights...I've seen the 12-speed EPS advertised weights as being overly aggressive). As I said earlier both of my Boras came out under the advertised weights. If you are truly curious re-weigh the wheels on a different scale. It would also be helpful to those here thinking about buying the WTOs.

Do you mind sharing where you got your WTOs? I'm in the U.S. and I want a pair too but I'm hoping I won't have to pay full retail for them. I got both of my Boras way below retail but I also understand that the WTO is still new. Thanks.
Agree that maybe my £5 kitchen scales were not the right tool for the job. It was the incorrect information I got from the internet regarding the ratio of weights that confused me because the rear just so happened to be within a gram of what i expected so thought that must mean my scales were fine... anyway.... forget and enjoy.

I got mine from wiggle in the UK as I get 12% off retail price through their loyalty scheme. Not a "deal" by any means but the cheapest I could find them.

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Thanks. I did purchase one set of my Boras from Wiggle but had to pay U.S. duty/taxes. So I'll probably avoid Wiggle for the time being, hehe.

kevinw
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kevinw wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:56 pm
I got mine from wiggle in the UK as I get 12% off retail price through their loyalty scheme. Not a "deal" by any means but the cheapest I could find them.
Then they up the discount to 17% days later.... :cry:

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Give them a call - I've had that in the past and they've refunded the discount amount.....

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@guyc, I rode my WTO 45s yesterday and was surprised I was getting brake rub on out of saddle efforts. So I kept adjusting the brakes until it had gone but am surprised at how far the pads need to be from the wheel. In this respect they are the same as my Bora Ones. Same frame as yours albeit smaller. Whats your expeience?

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I can't get mine to rub at all - and I run mine pretty close as I don't like much lever travel. Mind you I didn't get rub from my old 50 Ultra's either. Maybe you're a power monster!

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guyc wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:37 am
I can't get mine to rub at all - and I run mine pretty close as I don't like much lever travel. Mind you I didn't get rub from my old 50 Ultra's either. Maybe you're a power monster!
No Im not! What distance are your pads from the rim? Do you tow the pads in? The braking is better than the Bora Ones but louder.

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No - I don't toe them in at all. I did with Mavics but these I run flat. They're about 2mm from the rim, maybe 2.5mm.

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guyc wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:45 am
No - I don't toe them in at all. I did with Mavics but these I run flat. They're about 2mm from the rim, maybe 2.5mm.
Thanks. You have to smile when Campagnolo in their instruction books say 1mm. Lovely wheels though.

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1mm is super tight. Hadn't even read that.

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guyc wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:09 am
1mm is super tight. Hadn't even read that.
Its in the book that comes with the brakes rather than the wheels and I think you use Shimano.

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Ahhhhh. That would explain it

kevinw
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by kevinw

My wto 60s rub but after reading up on it you are actually more likely to get brake rub from stiffer rims - which I found counter intuitive.

Makes sense because if rims don't bend at all any deflection at the bottom will be equal at the top. On a flexable rim a 5mm deflection at the bottom might only be 1mm at the top near the brakes because they bend.

Also you notice brake rub more when the brakes are so loud :-)

I set mine up at 1mm originally and now probably nearer 2.5mm to get rid of the rubbing - sounds like this is normal. Actually pushing my wheel left and right between my brake pads feels harder than with my aluminium mavic kyrium elites - which arn't known to be a flexy wheelset.
guyc wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:02 pm
Give them a call - I've had that in the past and they've refunded the discount amount.....
No dice :cry:

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I'm so glad I run big lever throw, what even is brake rub haha.

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