New wheels day. Lightweight Gipfelsturms

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KCookie
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Calnago wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 1:08 am
@KCookie: So now that you've listened to it, you don't like it and want to quiet things down? That's ok, but I wouldn't use any kind of "oil". There's no "pawls" in there, just two big serrated plates that mesh with each other. Some grease would be the way to go i would think. I can't imagine any oil softening the noise for any length of time at all. DTS has their special "red" grease but I don't know what's so special about it. Either way, not sure how long the "quieter" sound would hold up given how the system works and you may find yourself having to do that more often than you would like. I have about 6 pairs of Lightweights floating around here right now so perhaps I'll pull one apart, grease it up, and see just how much of a difference it makes.
It's not that I don't like it, I'm just now aware of it, and very curious to see how much of a difference there will be once greased. Think I'll wait for you to have a go to see what grease works best. 😀

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Whatever you do, don't pack it with grease (either thick or thin).
They only need a smidge, and remove half of that, or what happens is the 2 gears "hydraulic" apart, losing drive.
Finish Line synthetic is pretty good- it has the properties of savlon ;-)
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KCookie wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 10:31 am
It's not that I don't like it, I'm just now aware of it, and very curious to see how much of a difference there will be once greased. Think I'll wait for you to have a go to see what grease works best. 😀
it makes a huge difference

if you have a brand new dt-swiss hub, it will be really quiet, over time it will get louder as grease displaces
if you have a brand new lw wheel, i think they skimp on the grease vs. how much dts put in, so it'll be a little louder to start, it will get louder
if you have a 'dry' hub, it will be VERY loud, maybe the carbon let's the noise out more than an alloy hub

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by Calnago

The carbon definitely increases the sound for sure, but I just always hated the tractor type sound of the star ratchets in my DT hubs when I had them.
What @jekykllman says is interesting about avoiding too much grease. Not the same system at all, but I once packed some Eurus bearings and freehub with SlickHoney and the thing was dead quiet. Trouble was, I actually liked the sound of a Campy freehub and pawls. And not sure how it would have fared in colder weather either. Ended up flushing and using lighter stuff.
I’m quite curious myself now as to just how much you can play with the sound of the freehub in these wheels. I’ll get a chance to find out in the next month or so. And at this point I know I won’t be able to resist the experiment.
Also, what makes (the front hub at least), so uniquely different than a standard DT hub that they require you to send it back for a simple bearing replacement? Or maybe it’s the rear hub... it’s at least one or the other I know that. @Sungod?... you said you’ve done it, why do you think they insist on sending it back to them for this service?
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by sungod

vs. a real dts hub the potential for causing damage is getting things wrong when removing/inserting bearings, especially you must get the support right for when tapping things out/pressing in, to avoid putting axial shock/load from the hub into spokes/rim

there are a few posts on ww about the process, i quickly found this one...
viewtopic.php?p=605472#p605403

my current set are out of warranty now, bearings are still ok, but at some point i'll need to decide if i diy or get them serviced - i'm not 100% sure but i think there may be an authorised service provider in london, when the time comes i may ask there before deciding what to do

with the rear hub there's an annular nut that has to be removed, this what transmits the drive forces so it gets driven tight, if i can't get that off then it is time to stop, put back together, and get it done by lw!

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