Matt28NJ wrote:Lieblingsleguan wrote:What do they cost in the US? I like the wheels on paper but 2000€ for a carbon faired aluminum wheelset is bonkers.
$1100 or less USD from reputable sellers with warranty.
That is a price I would happily pay
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Matt28NJ wrote:Lieblingsleguan wrote:What do they cost in the US? I like the wheels on paper but 2000€ for a carbon faired aluminum wheelset is bonkers.
$1100 or less USD from reputable sellers with warranty.
Wow...that's a pretty big endorsement. Have you also tried with black prince pads??andylav wrote:Braking surface on new Cosmic Carbon Pro SL C with supplied SwissStop yellow pads is better in the wet than my alloy Ksyriums
It is hart to comprehend that yellow Swiss on any carbon rims can perform better than any aluminium rim with any descent pads.andylav wrote:Braking surface on new Cosmic Carbon Pro SL C with supplied SwissStop yellow pads is better in the wet than my alloy Ksyriums
bikerdan wrote:Wow...that's a pretty big endorsement. Have you also tried with black prince pads??andylav wrote:Braking surface on new Cosmic Carbon Pro SL C with supplied SwissStop yellow pads is better in the wet than my alloy Ksyriums
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1415chris wrote:It is hart to comprehend that yellow Swiss on any carbon rims can perform better than any aluminium rim with any descent pads. I'm quite surprised that people still use yellow Swiss. Black Prince offer better modulation and power as well.
Having the same wheels and brakes - I would not say the same. Aluminum > carbon, in my experience, although YMMV.
Since you (and others) have brought this water "clearing" issue up, I am curious to get all of your perspectives on how this works. I have often heard people say that you need a full rotation of the wheel for the pads to clear the water, before they can then bite on the now cleared braking surface. That would basically mean little to no braking for a little over 2m before your brakes actually start taking effect.
Kool-Stop salmon pads and aluminum rims is the reason I haven’t jumped on disc bandwagon. It’s that good. I will keep waiting for disc brakes to improve. Marginal gains is not good enough. Someday disc brakes will outperform rim brakes.silvalis wrote:Agreed. I even thought BXPs were good until I switched to koolstop salmons. Completely different level in the wet.
(note: BXPs are a step up in the wet compared to shimano R55C4 and whatever comes on campy sr skeletons)