Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

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slake21
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HansZuDemFranz wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 11:48 am
slake21 wrote:
Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:53 pm
jbaillie wrote:I actually think once it's fully worn off they'll look fine, but in the in-between stage it just looks like you have insanely mucked-up wheels.
that's why I waited for the 30 KB.
the PEO coating should last for many thousands of kms

Hey,

Could you give an update on how you feel about those wheels? Thinking about also getting them but I have yet to see any reviews on them. Also, what kind of brake pads do you use with them?

Thanks for your help.
I only use them in dry sunny conditions, so far they're like new. cc 1000 km only though.
I contacted Vision prior to purchase, and they have told me no special pads are needed. I use stock ultegra pads.

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by HansZuDemFranz

bilwit wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 5:12 pm
Any coated alloy rim (including ceramic) will eventually wear off and taking them out in the rain will quicken this process ten fold. My Boyds became completely silver within a month after taking them out five days a week with most of those days in the wet. In fact, it showed signs of wear literally after the first time it was ever taken out in the rain which was 54kms and I have pictures of it. Braking performance was indeed better while the ceramic coating was still there but noticeably decreased when it was worn out (although still as good as any normal alloy rim).
While this might be true, on many rims the coating lasts a couple 10k Kilometers. So once the coating might wear off, the rims would probably be replaced regardless.

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slake21 wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 6:54 pm
HansZuDemFranz wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 11:48 am
slake21 wrote:
Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:53 pm
jbaillie wrote:I actually think once it's fully worn off they'll look fine, but in the in-between stage it just looks like you have insanely mucked-up wheels.
that's why I waited for the 30 KB.
the PEO coating should last for many thousands of kms

Hey,

Could you give an update on how you feel about those wheels? Thinking about also getting them but I have yet to see any reviews on them. Also, what kind of brake pads do you use with them?

Thanks for your help.
I only use them in dry sunny conditions, so far they're like new. cc 1000 km only though.
I contacted Vision prior to purchase, and they have told me no special pads are needed. I use stock ultegra pads.

Good to hear. Thanks for the quick reply.

Edit: one more thing. Do you happen to have some pictures of your bike with those wheels?

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HansZuDemFranz wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 7:54 pm
Good to hear. Thanks for the quick reply.

Edit: one more thing. Do you happen to have some pictures of your bike with those wheels?
there are some on pedalroom

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Thought I'd post an updated list of alu clinchers with various "durable"/PEO/etc. dark brake tracks and ask people to post good/bad experiences (esp. on braking performance)
Able to find in depth reviews for the top three and much less on the rest.

ordered by price - mfg info (wheelset weight, internal rim width, spoke count):

Mavic Ksyrium Pro Exalith (1475g, 17mm, 18/20)
Campagnolo Shamal Mille (1459g, 17mm, 16/21)
DT Swiss PR1400 Dicut OXIC 21 (1450g, 18mm, 20/24) ~1500g actual
Boyd Altamont/Lite Ceramic 2nd gen (varies, 19.86mm, varies)
Vision Trimax 25 KB (1420g, 17mm, 20/24)
Vision Trimax 35 KB (1630g, 17mm, 16/21)
Vision Trimax 30 KB (1495g, 19mm, 16/21) ~1557g actual

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stev0 wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:01 pm
Thought I'd post an updated list of alu clinchers with various "durable"/PEO/etc. dark brake tracks and ask people to post good/bad experiences (esp. on braking performance)
Able to find in depth reviews for the top three and much less on the rest.

ordered by price - mfg info (wheelset weight, internal rim width, spoke count):

Mavic Ksyrium Pro Exalith (1475g, 17mm, 18/20)
Campagnolo Shamal Mille (1459g, 17mm, 16/21)
DT Swiss PR1400 Dicut OXIC 21 (1450g, 18mm, 20/24) ~1500g actual
Boyd Altamont/Lite Ceramic 2nd gen (varies, 19.86mm, varies)
Vision Trimax 25 KB (1420g, 17mm, 20/24)
Vision Trimax 35 KB (1630g, 17mm, 16/21)
Vision Trimax 30 KB (1495g, 19mm, 16/21) ~1557g actual
also Fulcrum Racing Zero Nite, and HED Black series

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Loving my DTs. Solid braking, 0 pulse and so damn stiff for crits while not being painful on the ride to and from. ImageImage

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I can vouch for DT's Oxic. Been riding them for at least 1000k and they still look new.

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I really don´t understand why ppl bother with this.

If you don´t want to spend premium $$ on carbon wheels, then just buy some cheap chinese carbon wheels for sunny days, and some cheap alu wheels for rainy days. This ceramic brake track inbetween thing is just the worst from both worlds. You wont get several 1000 km out of them unless you only ride them in dry weather, and if you do, you might as well buy some better looking cheap chinese carbon rims.

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AJS914 wrote:
Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:43 pm
I don't get everybody's obsession with black brake tracks.
mainly asthetics whats wrong with that ??

yinya
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by yinya

Anybody knows who stocks boyd altamont lite ceramic rims in Europe and ships within the EU?


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yinya wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:14 am
Anybody knows who stocks boyd altamont lite ceramic rims in Europe and ships within the EU?


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Wheel Tec in the Netherlands has them in stock.
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Did anyone tried those? They look fantastic and their current price is very tempting...
According to road.cc they could be a nice alternative, but I don't think I ever seen a bad review from that website, so I don't trust them much.

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nachetetm wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:31 pm
Did anyone tried those? They look fantastic and their current price is very tempting...
According to road.cc they could be a nice alternative, but I don't think I ever seen a bad review from that website, so I don't trust them much.
I've had them for a year now. Pretty good set of wheels, can't really say bad things about them.
The edges could be more aero, but that's not a big deal for me.

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