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Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:27 pm
by jrmynthn
There are some Pacenti SL23 version 1's that have a black brake surface. I have a pair and wrote an initial impressions blog about them here. Click here to read it

I'd heard all the horror stories about how fast the black wears off on these dark surfaces but it's held up better than I expected. Most wear is actually from tire levers along the edges while swapping tires. There are photos on the blog. I'm going to add updates as they wear since this seems to be a popular question and there is not a lot of info or photos out there.

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:27 pm
by Weenie

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:32 pm
by r0ddy
Why not get a set of rims anodised black yourself, it's not expensive

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:35 pm
by Titanium22
Mavic do the open pro rim with a ceramic coating. I don't know what colour it is or how it lasts though? I did hear someone say the rims and tyres stay clean though, not like aluminium in the wet that turns everything black.

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:49 pm
by RichTheRoadie
Spessartpantani wrote:Any news from Mr. Watson an his Dark matter Rims? Anyone already seen one of the Rims for real?

He's having trouble getting them finalised - not his fault (part of it is due to the US shipping strike), and I believe he will get there, but it's taking MUCH longer than he (or we) thought.

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:00 pm
by sugarkane
Yup very sad!! I really want the dark matters to materialise

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:50 am
by Lugan
Spessartpantani wrote:Any news from Mr. Watson an his Dark matter Rims? Anyone already seen one of the Rims for real?

Bumping this thread up. I'm also looking for ceramic-coated (or similarly tough) brake tracks on wider aluminum road rims for my rain/winter bike (I live in Seattle and ride in rain a lot). I'm looking for braking consistency and power when wet, not aesthetics.

I owned a set of Ligeros from half a decade ago that had a durable and grippy ceramic coating. Those were great wheels for a few years for me. Any update from anyone on this new incarnation of Ligero Wheelworks and their Dark Matter rims? Anyone actually riding the rims?

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:01 am
by RichTheRoadie
Lugan wrote:Any update from anyone on this new incarnation of Ligero Wheelworks and their Dark Matter rims? Anyone actually riding the rims?

I've been waiting for them for a year now. Mr. Watson has been very quiet over the last few months...

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:03 pm
by L3X
Maybe add some Ryde rims with CSS braking to your list?
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Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:09 pm
by sugarkane
Hmmm

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:16 pm
by sugarkane
L3x what rims are those exactly and how dark is the CSS coating cause it looks pretty light and there is no mention of 'dark' rims on their web site

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:19 pm
by mariovalentim
L3X wrote:Maybe add some Ryde rims with CSS braking to your list?
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what rims are those? doesn't seem to be listed on ryde.nl under css...
http://www.ryde.nl/rims-search---4-8-

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:14 pm
by Lugan
Thanks for the tip, L3X. Those are some heavy rims at 700+ grams! Here is a little more information about this braking surface: http://www.ryde.nl/carbide-supersonic-css . It says,

Carbide supersonic (CSS)

> Our highest quaiity for optimal braking

>Almost everlasting sides.

> Special brake blocks required, produced by Magura, Koolstop, Swissstop

> Optimal brakeperformance in wet weather conditions.

> CSS is a Ryde Patented design

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:20 pm
by sugarkane
Yep but the pictures show a sliver brake track.. And I'f you change the exposure of the above photo I don't think we have a dark grey or black track either

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:42 pm
by NovemberDave
The Ryde Pulse Series is available with the black brake tracks for 2016. We have a set of Pulse Comps that we've been using for about a thousand miles so far and they're quite nice. The off center rear rim is a plus. Weights are around 430g/rim from memory (traveling right now), built up nicely, and work well tubeless.

The black brake track, like every other black alloy brake track I've ever experienced, isn't going to last forever. The first really nasty rain ride rubbed some of the black off. If you ride exclusively in dry conditions, it would probably last quite well. Rain riding is going to kill it eventually.

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:42 pm
by Lugan
NovemberDave wrote:The Ryde Pulse Series is available with the black brake tracks for 2016. We have a set of Pulse Comps that we've been using for about a thousand miles so far and they're quite nice. The off center rear rim is a plus. Weights are around 430g/rim from memory (traveling right now), built up nicely, and work well tubeless.

The black brake track, like every other black alloy brake track I've ever experienced, isn't going to last forever. The first really nasty rain ride rubbed some of the black off. If you ride exclusively in dry conditions, it would probably last quite well. Rain riding is going to kill it eventually.

Thanks Dave. But I'm looking for a hard ceramic or similar surface for grippy and immediate braking riding in rain about half the year. The anodized brake track route probably won't do the trick, as you noted.

(I could buy a disk brake rain bike, but my rain bike is a newish Hampsten Max and I'm not eager to give up an otherwise excellent bike for a braking system change).

Re: Alu Clinchers with Ceramic/dark Brake Tracks

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:42 pm
by Weenie