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Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:00 am
by TheKaiser
Calnago wrote:I would much rather retain every bit of flexibility in the tubular to adapt to the road surface than gain a teensy bit of aero from burying it.


Not saying you're wrong in your estimation of your own priorities but, if "every bit of flexibility" was really the best, then we should all be riding tubular rims with a triangular profile, and gluing the tubular to a completely flat outer surface in order to leave its round cross section completely unimpeded.

Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:08 pm
by djgarrett21
https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/04/03/tp ... prototype/

More info on the 507's as well as the hookless versions. I'd love to have a pair of the hookless rims to try out. Hopefully they become available soon.

Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:08 pm
by Weenie

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Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:17 pm
by VTR1000SP2
These are available today in the 507 depth as a Tubular version


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Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:46 am
by jlaitinen
I have a set of 507's on order laced to dt 240s. I think that I am going to run them with Pro Ones' in 23mm as they will balloon to 27mm or close. Will give a review when I get them.

Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:58 am
by chrisMTB
Thinking of getting the rev 35 for a mtb 29" build. Have the 35's been tested in mtb use?


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Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:32 am
by vmajor
chrisMTB wrote:Thinking of getting the rev 35 for a mtb 29" build. Have the 35's been tested in mtb use?


Sure. They are not fashionably wide, but the Venn Rev 35 TCD are in fact good 29" rims/wheels. Pro and elite riders like them as they get a really nice tire profile with 2.1-2.2" tires.

Here is one example of a Belgian elite/pro rider's setup.

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And on an elite category full suspension XC bike too:

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Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:05 am
by vmajor
....and I should add, the Venn 507 TCD will make a spectacular deep profile 29" wheelset, especially when the hookless version is done.

Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:47 am
by Nefarious86
Very curious about these 507s :D

Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:01 pm
by VTR1000SP2
The pricing is reasonable enough to try a set. Waiting for confirmation of the tubeless model production weight before I order though.


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Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:05 pm
by elfuinha
Hello Victor

What is the price of the 507 TUC from belgium??
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Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:43 pm
by C36
Hi Victor, I have some hard time understanding what are you different rims weight.
Would you mind making a summary for us?


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Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:20 pm
by djgarrett21
vmajor wrote:....and I should add, the Venn 507 TCD will make a spectacular deep profile 29" wheelset, especially when the hookless version is done.


Do you have any guidance yet on maximum tire pressures you would spec? My interest in these is mainly for road riding and I'd hope to be able to run mostly 28's but maybe up to 32's or down to 25's (if they even fit).

Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:50 am
by vmajor
elfuinha wrote:Hello Victor

What is the price of the 507 TUC from belgium??
To Portugal



We do not have Venn 507 TUC yet, only TCC and TCD. The only tubulars that we have are Venn Rev 35 TUC.

Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:58 am
by vmajor
djgarrett21 wrote:
vmajor wrote:....and I should add, the Venn 507 TCD will make a spectacular deep profile 29" wheelset, especially when the hookless version is done.


Do you have any guidance yet on maximum tire pressures you would spec? My interest in these is mainly for road riding and I'd hope to be able to run mostly 28's but maybe up to 32's or down to 25's (if they even fit).


This is a difficult one as it depends on how wide your tires end up being once inflated, and on your weight. Second, maximum tire pressures depend on tire widths as the actual measure that we have a maximum for is the maximum tire casing tension. Basically the relationship is: tire casing tension = tire width/tire pressure, so the wider the tire the less tire pressure you need to achieve a particular tire casing tension.

In practical terms, while you can inflate a 25mm tire to 120 PSI with the rim surviving, if you manage to inflate a 35mm tire to 120 PSI, the rim would fail. Thus, as a rule of thumb pay attention to maximum tire inflation pressure markings on the tire, and inflate them to below that number especially on internally wide rims like our Venn 507.

Here is a more thorough explanation: http://www.velonews.com/2017/03/bikes-and-tech/technical-faq-science-tire-pressure-rim-width-heat-buildup_433214

Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:58 am
by Weenie

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Re: Velocite filament wound rims

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:54 pm
by Krackor
From the FSE thread:

vmajor wrote:Venn 507 are available now, but not to the north American market due to an exclusivity agreement. Sorry.

We have a 441g solution for a Venn 507 filament wound rim that we developed in conjunction with a researcher from TU Delft in the Netherlands and I am hoping to have this available by the end of the year.


Hi Victor, will the Venn 507 be available in North America later in the year? Will it be available through a distributor? Can you disclose who that would be and approximately when they will be available? I'm interested in a pair of hookless 507 TCD rims in time for the CX season in September.