If you want your wheels to go faster cycle an extra 200 kms a week.
My biggest complaint with the 404's are the Zipp hubs. They require too much attention with regards to preload (unless your buying the 2014's) and the noises associated with that are annoying. I rebuilt my 404 rear hub with a White industries and was able to enjoy these wheels much more. The Zipp rims are quite strong and rarely needed truing to their advantage however.
I'm very impressed with the Shamal's overall and have been riding them tubeless which feels very smooth compared to any clincher wheels Ive ridden. The 404's are not as comfortable over road vibrations, bumps and holes, the Shamals are just so solid in every category-love them.
Riding in crowded NYC I find the fishing-reel sound of the Zipps to be an excellent way of warning other riders and pedestrains of my impending bat-out-of-Hell on 2 wheels approach to them and they seem to react to that sound FAR more quickly and consistently than any vocal/verbal warnings, shouts, pssts (second best option) or any other form of warning I have ever tried. So I think there something to be said for them as an early-warning device for certain type of riding conditions at least...Im glad they are so.
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My biggest complaint with the 404's are the Zipp hubs. They require too much attention with regards to preload (unless your buying the 2014's) and the noises associated with that ...
i think i've heard this statement about Zipp hubs every year since 2008. they must be pretty bad because despite improving every year, they still aren't there yet.
JimV wrote:I find this comparison kind of silly. Shamals are incredibly expensive training wheels...
It is quite easy to find a pair of Shamals for around 700-750 eur, depending on the shop and the model selected (some discounters going even lower). That is totally different than the price of 404's.
Tricky1 wrote:I'd race my Shamal's in a second. After tons of training miles on the 404's, I think the Shamal's are better in most categories and don't plan on using the 404's except for TT's...
I wish all of my competitors had that logic
As the snow seemed to be coming to an end, I thought I would reload my tubeless wheels with sealant again (snowed all night last night, so probably jinxed that). I almost hit myself in the face picking-up that Shamal front out of my wheel pile, it's so much lighter than the DA wheel! That is another plus for the Shamal that I forgot about.
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