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mpulsiv
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by mpulsiv

fizzaz wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:03 am
Does anyone have pictures of the newer gen Shimano R7/8/9000 with a 28 or 30 mm rim with a tire mounted?
I don't think we need to worry about brake caliper clearance. See my picture above. Potenza and Dura Ace 9000 open ~32mm wide. These are last generation.
R7/8/9100 are wider.
Specialized Roval CL 50 and CLX 64 are UCI approved wheels, used at Grand Tour. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't release wheels to the public that can't clear modern rim calipers.
29.4mm wide www.specialized.com/us/en/roval-cl-50-wheelset/p/156043
29.9mm wide https://rovalcomponents.com/collections ... eam-clx-64
30mm wide https://shop.venn-cycling.com/index.php ... bon-wheels
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emotive
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by emotive

Velt wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:32 am
My Wheels are the 50mm ASD version. Yishun doesn't have a weight for these wheels but lists the 44: 240S-ASD44C-DISC (1515g)
1504g, competitive weight for a wide and deep rim. What did these cost inc delivery to Australia?

Someone else earlier in this thread had issues with the spoke hole (and thus the nipple) not being aligned with the spoke on their Yishun ASD rims. How are the nipple angles on your wheels?

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Velt
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by Velt

emotive wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:20 pm
Velt wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:32 am
My Wheels are the 50mm ASD version. Yishun doesn't have a weight for these wheels but lists the 44: 240S-ASD44C-DISC (1515g)
1504g, competitive weight for a wide and deep rim. What did these cost inc delivery to Australia?

Someone else earlier in this thread had issues with the spoke hole (and thus the nipple) not being aligned with the spoke on their Yishun ASD rims. How are the nipple angles on your wheels?

A couple of the angles seem a little exaggerated hard to get a good picture (see attached) but most were fine. The ones that seemed a bit exaggerated don't seem much much worse than my other disc wheelset (dt swiss factory made). I am no wheelbuilder though.

It was USD$810.16 inc postage to Australia. USD$729 For the wheels, + $50 Postage +4% paypal fee. I got 5 nipples and spokes cut for an additional USD$12.50.
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mrlobber
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by mrlobber

Ordered BTLOS 60mm (26/17inner) clinchers on Carbon Ti Disc hubs yesterday, we'll see.
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Pinguin
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by Pinguin

mrlobber wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:51 am
Ordered BTLOS 60mm (26/17inner) clinchers on Carbon Ti Disc hubs yesterday, we'll see.
Please give a review

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I'll get them in 2 weeks the earliest, and probably won't ride them until spring anyway.
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xDOMx
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LightBicycle rims, both tubular and TL/clincher - disc and rim brake-specific, have been my go to. Never had any issues and the price (and reputation) is solid.

AZR3
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by AZR3

Just bought a pair of lightbike RR56C02 (30mm outer/23mm inner) and want to use the new GP 5000 tubeless, which width should I buy, 25mm or 28mm? I’m leaning towards 25mm figuring the stretch will line up nicely with the 30mm external width so better aero but the 28s would probably be a smoother ride. Any suggestions?

Marin
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by Marin

I doubt the 28s will be much smoother. You need the 25s anyway if you want aero gains from your wheel, and these will probably too wide already on a 23mm inner width.

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by AJS914

From reports I've read, GP5000s seem to measure true to size on an 18mm internal rim. 23mm is on the wider end of the spectrum so a 25mm might stretch to 27 and a 28mm to 30ish.

I'd wait for some actual measurements to surface.

Is the 5000TL even available yet? I haven't seen it for actual sale yet. On every site I've looked at it's listed as "pre-order".

AZR3
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by AZR3

AJS914 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:24 pm
From reports I've read, GP5000s seem to measure true to size on an 18mm internal rim. 23mm is on the wider end of the spectrum so a 25mm might stretch to 27 and a 28mm to 30ish.

I'd wait for some actual measurements to surface.

Is the 5000TL even available yet? I haven't seen it for actual sale yet. On every site I've looked at it's listed as "pre-order".
I have not purchased the tires yet but wanted to see what size it should select before I buy them

I have an old wheel set that is 26 mm exernal and 17 mm internal, that push 23 mm tires to almost 26 mm so I figured a wheel set with 23 mm internal with would balloon 25s close to 30 mm (external width if wjeels)

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Beaver
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by Beaver

A 25mm GP5000 on 22C comes in at 26.7mm (so just like 23mm 4000S II):

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by AJS914

I also note that in that article the GP5000TL measured 25.2mm wide on a 19.2mm internal rim.

The GP5000 also doesn't seem to be as tall as the GP4000 so if someone's primary limitation for fit is the height rather than the width, the GP5000 might be a good choice.

I'd like to try them in tubeless but I don't seem them in stock anywhere. The non-tubeless version is on the expensive side right now but cost aside, I have a brand new pair of GP4000s here so I'll try the 5000s in a year when I need some new tires.

Hexsense
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by Hexsense

Beaver wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:43 pm
A 25mm GP5000 on 22C comes in at 26.7mm (so just like 23mm 4000S II):
My 4000sII 23c on 21mm internal width was 27.3mm (used and stretched). The new 25c of 5000 is even narrower then...

Then what would the 23c be like... like an old 4000sII 21c?

rides4beer
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by rides4beer

I'm eyeing either the 45x28 or 58x28 carbon clinchers from Farsports, but have no clue what hub to get. Edhub ceramic and FSE260 are the lightest, but Bitex 303, Powerway R36, and Powerway R51, and NovatecSL are also close in weight and price point.

What would be the best in terms of durability and serviceability?

I also like the 3G lacing of the Powerway R36, any thoughts on that one?

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