Santa Cruz Stigmata - trying to get under 8kg

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simbikotic
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by simbikotic

Beginning a new build! FIrst gravel build for me. Wow, the frame is... sturdy.

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Weights for all the small bits:
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Using an S-Works SL stem, which ships with an expander plug that is a little lighter than the Cane creek one that came with the Stigmata frame:
Cane creek:
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S-Works:
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Talking of replacing parts, these thru axles have to go....
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I honsetly could not attach these to the bike in good conscience, so sourcing replacements asap.

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simbikotic
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With Roval alpinist seatpost and S-Works SL stem. Still to cut fork.
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Installing the Campag Ekar groupset. The frame uses full internal routing for mechanical and Campag only provide short housings, so making use of some nice yellow jagwire housing I had in the box.

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Coming together:
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Wheels are Farsports 36mm gravel rims on DT 240 hubs. Weight for these can be found on this other thread: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=167924&p=1720555#p1720555

Tyres are Specialized Pathfiner 42mm.

simbikotic
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Complete build:
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And the weight:
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Oh my. I have some work to do.

simbikotic
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Diet plan:

Okay 360g to lose. There's some easy early wins.

1. I have a roval terra handlebar on backorder (out of stock most places), which is 200g. Currently for the build I used an old alu FSA handlebar I had lying around 306g so -106g: 254g
2. I have a pair of tune mtb bottlecages on order at 14g each replacing the tacx ones (30g each) so -32g: 222g
3. The Pathfinder tyres are nice but so heavy at 540g each (!). If I went to Panaracer gravel king SKs (38mm) that would be 453 each. So -174g: 48g

Any ideas for that last 50g? I could cut the seatpost (there's a fair bit in there) go down to one spacer on the fork (stack is really high anyway). I have 75ml of sealant in each tyre - maybe I can get away with less (60ml)?

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by DHG01

Nice bike.
Perhaps the saddle? Looks like an Arionne with carbon rails. So loosing 50 grams is likely to reuiqre changing model.

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Pedals, get some excustar titanium pedals, don’t get expedo’s they are crap

These are my favorites: https://www.dulight.fr/fr/pedales/1715- ... anium.html

damitamit
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by damitamit

Nice build! I recently built up a green Stigmata as a road build with Rival AXS and Farsports Feder with Panaracer GK 32s. Came in at 8.3kg.

Which thru-axles did you use in the end? I see I can save 100g by replacing my stock ones with J&Ls.

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robbosmans wrote:
Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:03 am
Pedals, get some excustar titanium pedals, don’t get expedo’s they are crap

These are my favorites: https://www.dulight.fr/fr/pedales/1715- ... anium.html
These looks good. I ve had good experience with Xpedo though.
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simbikotic
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damitamit wrote:
Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:54 pm
Nice build! I recently built up a green Stigmata as a road build with Rival AXS and Farsports Feder with Panaracer GK 32s. Came in at 8.3kg.

Which thru-axles did you use in the end? I see I can save 100g by replacing my stock ones with J&Ls.
Thanks. I love the green color. I used Robert Axle Project Thru Axles: https://robertaxleproject.com/.

simbikotic
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by simbikotic

robbosmans wrote:
Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:03 am
Pedals, get some excustar titanium pedals, don’t get expedo’s they are crap

These are my favorites: https://www.dulight.fr/fr/pedales/1715- ... anium.html
Nice! Those pedals look awesome. Thanks.

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Ditch the rubber chainstay guard? Toying with that myself, put some helicopter tape on for now, but shouldn't be whacking stay with a clutch eh

simbikotic
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visionset wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:47 pm
Ditch the rubber chainstay guard? Toying with that myself, put some helicopter tape on for now, but shouldn't be whacking stay with a clutch eh
Right. Curious to know if anyone has weighed this part. Looking at it I would guess it could be as much as 100-200g - very chunky. I do ride down some pretty steep, rocky single-track, but I rarely (never?) hear chain slap. Lighter protection might be fine.

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by simbikotic

Well - I am still waiting for my carbon handlebars... But in the meantime I managed to get sub 8kg without them:

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The changes were:
1. Tires Pathfinder pro 42 -> Gravelking SK 38
2. Bottlecages tacx -> tune mtb
3. Rotors Ekar -> Galfer

When my handlebar finally shows up that should save me another 100g for ~7.83kg. This seems like a good weight for a Stigmata based on other examples I have seen. But more tuning is certainly possible. E.g. Pedals as suggestes above. Maybe 7.7 is possible.

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rolfo
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by rolfo

Nice bike!

Is this a medium? And what is the saddle height? I'm looking how a 54cm will look for me ;-)

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