Rejuvenated Scott Foil Mk. I

[Kurt1980]

Hi Neeb (or anyone else who can comment) I'm also doing up a Foil, same model.

I have a question about the cable guides, which I'm hoping to get some help with.

The frame I purchased (2nd hand), came with what I thought were the wrong cable guides, as there's definitely some friction in the braking, possibly shifting. Taking them apart, they look like this

So I ordered some from the shop and got the same thing

Whereas an online search turns up these

Do you remember what yours look like?
Wondering if the distributor over here made a mistake, or there's 2 simultaneous versions for the Foil, or one is an older model.

R2 list the first type, Bke24 list the 2nd type. Both shops only include the first part of the serial number, both listed as 219584. Part number on mine is 219584-222.

TIA
Kurt

[Omiar]

The last image seems odd. The cable guides were not that long and didn't narrow that much at the bottom.
But it might be that some later stock is a bit different.
My local dealer uses the same 3rd image which have the odd ones.

Anyway, there have been other high end Scott frames which need a bit filing to have good braking/shifting.

[Kurt1980]

....Anyway, there have been other high end Scott frames which need a bit filing to have good braking/shifting.

That's a bit disappointing to be honest. Any links to photos or explanations you could send me to?

When I recable I'll get some photos, but I remember at least one of the stops for the brakes had worn down from cable rub. I had the impression that the stops weren't aligned with the geometry of the frame, and that the cable had cut through the last bit of the stop to travel in a straight line.

[neeb]

Mine were/are definitely like the first two and not the third image.

However - the ones that came with the frame originally were all plastic. One of these actually broke in use after a few years, making the rear brake suddenly non-functional... The replacements Scott sent me were made of aluminium.

You definitely want the two guides / plugs for the rear brake to be metal, not plastic. The front brake cable isn't internally routed so doesn't need any, obviously.

When I had the frame resprayed I had the holes for the gear cable guides filled in and painted over as I was converting the frame to fully electrionic (they now just appear as little bumps near the top of the down tube on either side due to the way they were designed as sculptured elements in the frame). Rather than routing the EPS electronic cable through one of the gear cable holes I cut a tiny slot with a fine hacksaw in the front of the hole in the frame that takes the rear brake cable guide. This allows the rear brake cable and the EPS cable to use the same hole:




<edit> if memory serves I did find the cables slightly friction-prone when I ran the bike with mechanical shifting..

[Omiar]

....Anyway, there have been other high end Scott frames which need a bit filing to have good braking/shifting.

That's a bit disappointing to be honest. Any links to photos or explanations you could send me to?

When I recable I'll get some photos, but I remember at least one of the stops for the brakes had worn down from cable rub. I had the impression that the stops weren't aligned with the geometry of the frame, and that the cable had cut through the last bit of the stop to travel in a straight line.

First gen 29" Spark FS. Im mostly referring to some minor details which you can detect if you have (a mechanic) with good experience with the same frameset.
I dont remember anything being wildly out of place although the finish before paint was rubbish on my first model year 1st gen Foil.

[liam7020]

Totally gorgeous!

[neeb]

Thanks! In fact I've tweaked it a bit - I decided that the orange highlights were a little distracting. Now has plain black EEs, skewers etc.

This picture with the Bora WTO 45s, but I still have the 60s too:

[MrCurrieinahurry]

Basso Diamante super record EPS 12
BMC slr01 ultegra Di2

[PinaRene]

Still a stunning bike ... really great with these Bora wheels.

[Kurt1980]

Mine were/are definitely like the first two and not the third image.

However - the ones that came with the frame originally were all plastic. One of these actually broke in use after a few years, making the rear brake suddenly non-functional... The replacements Scott sent me were made of aluminium.

You definitely want the two guides / plugs for the rear brake to be metal, not plastic. The front brake cable isn't internally routed so doesn't need any, obviously.

When I had the frame resprayed I had the holes for the gear cable guides filled in and painted over as I was converting the frame to fully electrionic (they now just appear as little bumps near the top of the down tube on either side due to the way they were designed as sculptured elements in the frame). Rather than routing the EPS electronic cable through one of the gear cable holes I cut a tiny slot with a fine hacksaw in the front of the hole in the frame that takes the rear brake cable guide. This allows the rear brake cable and the EPS cable to use the same hole:




<edit> if memory serves I did find the cables slightly friction-prone when I ran the bike with mechanical shifting..

Thanks Neeb, appreciated!

[NiloCoppi]

Beautiful bike!