2020 S-Works Tarmac SL6 Disc @ 6.05kg w/ custom wheelset

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HShimada
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by HShimada

Awesome ride!
I've ridden 54 for the longest time and it worked like a charm but having longer legs and shorter arms (my "wingspan" is 1.5inches smaller than my height) I decided to give 51 a shot. It's now perfection.

In either case 52 and 54 are my favorite looking sizes for this frame!

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by justRideIt

HShimada wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:56 pm
Awesome ride!
I've ridden 54 for the longest time and it worked like a charm but having longer legs and shorter arms (my "wingspan" is 1.5inches smaller than my height) I decided to give 51 a shot. It's now perfection.

In either case 52 and 54 are my favorite looking sizes for this frame!
When I started out roadbiking 10 years ago I had no idea about frame geometries and unfortunately was not consulted properly by the bike salesperson... so I ended up with a frame way too big for me.
So I started to fiddle with the bike to make it fit, i.e. shorter stem, 0mm offset seatpost etc. but it was just the wrong size.

I was ready for an upgrade and went for the Canyon Aeroad, went down two sizes and riding the smaller frame was a revelation. It just fit like a glove at first try.

I'm the other way round than you: longer torso, but shorter legs and arms... that way I still end up with 0mm offset seatposts (short femur bones) and short stem, but I can nicely tuck on the bike and get aero :)
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justRideIt
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by justRideIt

I did some reasearch about weight savings at the thru axles:

Options would be
    The stock thru axles that come with the S-Works frame weigh in at 32g and 34g.
    So that would be a savings of 13g for 130€...
    Spending 10€ per gram for saving weight at the center of the rotational mass does not sound very cost-efficient...
    I will say no for now, gotta save something up for later ;)

    Here the weights of the stock SL6 thru axles I'm using... pretty good weight already, especially compared to the thru axles with the integrated handle (which also came with the frame).
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    colagreek
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    by colagreek

    dudemanppl wrote:
    Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:37 pm
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/303353544374

    Cheaper and lighter
    100% agree

    MiloAS
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    by MiloAS

    I have a J&L thru axle and it's brilliant. Customer service from the ebay seller is great as well, Would recommend!

    justRideIt
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    by justRideIt

    Thanks for your tips with the thru axles!!

    I've set up my new custom-built climbing wheels.
    Will run them alongside the Roval CLX 50s. However and unfortunately, swapping the wheelsets 1 to 1 is not possible without readjusting the brake calipers. There is a slight difference in alignment, so that the brake pads rub ever so slightly... well, that's what we have to deal with for that "greater braking modulation" with disc brakes, I guess :noidea: :mrgreen:

    I do prefer the look of the CLX50 deep section wheels though :o

    Wheelset Build
    • Rim: Stan's NoTubes Grail CB7, 24 hole front & rear
    • Hubs: Tune Prince / Princess w/ ceramic bearings, carbon endcaps, 6-hole-disc-mount
    • Spokes: Sapim CX Ray
    The complete wheelset with tubeless tape comes in at 1.154g.
    Notice the carbon endcaps on the non-brake-disc-side, and the Lord-of-the-rings-Style inscription on the freehub... they are a nice touch.

    - 526g for front wheel
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    - 628g for rear wheel
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    I've mounted them with 35mm tubeless valves, Schwalbe Pro One TT tires, 30ml of Stan's sealant.
    Brake discs: Hope X2 Race.
    Cassette: Dura Ace 11-28

    The fully ridable wheelset weights (all batteries included) now compare to following:
    Roval CLX 50 w/ Vittoria Corsa Speed Graphe Tubeless: 2.430g
    Custom Built w/ Schwalbe Pro One TT Tubeless: 2.047g
    That is 383g saved at the wheels. :beerchug:

    Weight differences broken down into ridable front and rear wheels:

    - Roval CLX 50 rear w/ XTR brake disc: 1351g
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    - Custom built rear wheel w/ Hope X2 Race disc: 1194g
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    - Roval CLX 50 front w/ XTR brake disc: 1079g
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    - Custom built front w/ Hope X2 Race disc: 853g
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    Due to currently nasty winter weather in Germany, I've only had the chance to ride them for 200km.
    Noticably faster acceleration from standing still, and the steeper the climb, the more noticable the difference to the CLX 50.
    But at the same time, these wheels do not make a racehorse out of a donkey... and currently in December I'm riding like a donkey ;)

    I will follow up with some pictures as soon as the weather permits... until then it is trainer time in the pain cave :D
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    sychen
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    by sychen

    You can shim the discs rotors so they are the same distance from the hub. Allows for easy swaps.



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    justRideIt
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    by justRideIt

    sychen wrote:
    Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:10 pm
    You can shim the discs rotors so they are the same distance from the hub. Allows for easy swaps.



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    Great tip, any kind or manufacture you can recommend?
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    robbosmans
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    by robbosmans

    Syntace makes them https://r2-bike.com/SYNTACE-Disc-Shim-Set-8-Pcs


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    justRideIt
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    by justRideIt

    robbosmans wrote:
    Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:20 pm
    Syntace makes them https://r2-bike.com/SYNTACE-Disc-Shim-Set-8-Pcs


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    Perfect, just what I needed.

    Much appreciated all the Knowledge from you guys :)
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    HShimada
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    by HShimada

    MCFK disc brake wheels get you 1275 grams at 45mm I believe. Nice cross between climbing and aero

    justRideIt
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    by justRideIt

    I've saved ca. 15 grams by changing the Garmin mount for an Alpitude Stelvio mount, the recently released model for Extralite Hyperstem.
    Got it from forum member @Werking https://alpitude.cc/ in the Dolomites.


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    Besides the weight savings, I like that the cockpit looks much cleaner.
    One of the original titanium bolts is being replaced with a longer Ti one.
    A plate centers the Garmin computer.

    Nice craftmanship, works wonderfully.

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    by cerro

    Crap, shouldn't have looked in this thread while waiting for my Hyperstem to arrive :p Why did you go for Alpitude instead of the Extralite mount?
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    by justRideIt

    cerro wrote:
    Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:56 pm
    Crap, shouldn't have looked in this thread while waiting for my Hyperstem to arrive :p Why did you go for Alpitude instead of the Extralite mount?
    I've researched both and I prefer the cleaner, simpler look of the Alpitude Stelvio with its single arm.
    The Extralite mount to my eyes looks overengineered and too bulky.
    Also, I don't need the extra length the Extralite provides since I prefer using the smaller Garmin models, currently the Edge 530.
    Edge 1000 series is just too chunky for my taste.

    In the end and from functional perspective, both mounts serve the purpose well and hold the computer :)

    YouTuber Rides of Japan has recently reviewed the Extralite mount, you can see it here:
    https://youtu.be/w7H9Y-FfhXA
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