Imaking20 Caves: S-Works Tarmac Disc - now 6.3kg

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Imaking20
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by Imaking20

I moved to a new area about 6 weeks ago and the (fantastic) riding here has had me rethinking my bike setup a bit. Primarily, going back away from having multiple road bikes. There's significantly less climbing in my new area, which is awesome, and any given day may end up on dirt or gravel for a bit (which is also awesome). Road surfaces are a bit more bumpy here than I've been spoiled with the last several years so I've found myself looking to eke out a bit more compliance from the Wilier. It just barely won't clear a 30mm tubular in the rear - which is probably the only thing that got in the way of me just keeping that as the do it all bike. Alas, it was not meant to be.

The criteria I went looking for in a new frame was something like this:
- Needs to have some aero properties (because science)
- Needs cool paint (which rules out a surprising number of bikes)
- Needs to be able to swallow up a 30mm tubular (this ruled out the F10 I so desperately longed for)
- Needs to at least have a strong chance of being a little more compliant than the Wilier (which rules out pretty much any other dedicated aero bike - because the Wilier is half magic)
- Not keen on proprietary/totally integrated cockpits (which ruled out a Madone). I know they're cool, and fast, but I like being able to choose my bar and stem. And not pay $600+ for a replacement

One thing you may notice that was not on my list, is "improved" braking performance. That's right, I'm a super happy camper with the performance of EE brakes and honestly have not even though once about braking in my new environment. This is the "caves" part. It seems like the majority of the market is moving towards only checking off my boxes on a disc brake bike. My wife sorta helped me realize that I was just being resistant to change. I don't think disc brakes will be bad, I just have it in mind that they solve a problem I do not have. Nonetheless, here I go stepping outside of my comfort zone.

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Weights and some more build information coming shortly...
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Wilier Wonka | The Dentist | The Bucket List | Specialissima | Evo | T2 | Blue | Project C6.0 | Felt AR FRD | Colnago C59 | S-Works Tarmac SL4| S-Works Venge | Wilier Cento1 SL | Tarmac SL2

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Imaking20
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by Imaking20

This bike doesn't really have any sort of weight goal - but I was pleasantly surprised by the frame weight. Particularly considering all the paint.

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Fork is a little more porky - but that's to be expected for disc I suppose. And lots of steerer to trim yet.

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Seatpost will also probably get trimmed a bit - but it's already lighter than my tuned Wilier post.

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I picked up a pair of Aerofly II bars several weeks ago with the intention of putting them on the Wilier. The slight texture/dimples on the surface are what really piqued my interest. I spend a fair bit of time riding down on my forearms - so the potential for extra traction when sweaty is appealing.

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Also nice to see they're ~30g lighter than my Pro bars.

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Wilier Wonka | The Dentist | The Bucket List | Specialissima | Evo | T2 | Blue | Project C6.0 | Felt AR FRD | Colnago C59 | S-Works Tarmac SL4| S-Works Venge | Wilier Cento1 SL | Tarmac SL2

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by dudemanppl

dam i hope boris cut you a deal

btw i didnt do anything to you on osm xD

upside
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by upside

.. Man, you always have nice stuff.... great looking frame. I am so sick of black and nice seeing some color now.

Imaking20
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by Imaking20

Thanks. I've definitely moved mostly away from black bikes - although the Factor was pretty classy looking on gumwalls. If it was the lighter blue color - I almost certainly would have kept it.


It's been a few years since I trained regularly with a power meter - most of the time I don't even ride with a visible head unit. Figured it's about time that I'm ready to have data to play with again though..

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And weight for those who are interested.

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by AZR3

This is going to be good! Love that color

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by MiloAS

Colour is beautiful, really excited to see how this pans out!

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by icantaffordcycling

What groupset is going on this? I'm in love with the s-works cranks. Excited for this build!
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Imaking20
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by Imaking20

9170 everything except the crank. Enve 5.6 for fast days. Enve CX tubulars for slow days.
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Dannnnn
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by Dannnnn

Jealous.
If I was in the market for a new bike, it would most certainly be this one. Love the colour scheme and look forward to seeing it built!

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romanmoser
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by romanmoser

What tubulars will you use on your enve cx ?
I recently remarked that Kreuziger from Qhubeqa had been using cx rims on the tour de france .
They are 28 mm at the brake track right ? Like last generations shimano c40 C60 tubs, are you not affraid yours rims will be too exposed with 25mm tubulars ?

Did you found a 24/24 holes pair of rims ?
All the ones I see IRL were 28 holes


Johnny Rad
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by Johnny Rad

Imaking20 wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:45 am
My wife sorta helped me realize that I was just being resistant to change. I don't think disc brakes will be bad, I just have it in mind that they solve a problem I do not have. Nonetheless, here I go stepping outside of my comfort zone.
Some of us rim brake riders or are eager to hear your conclusion.
Are we troglodytes or too savvy for the latest bike marketing?

Like many of you, I’ve observed that disc brake riders seem to like them for the most part. Conversely, rim brake riders are happy “as is” and some even look down on discs. Is it possible that rim brake riders are afraid of change? I resemble that comment (!!!) and rationalized on my new bike by concluding that I didn’t want a 5lb heavier aero bike with its integrated cockpit.

So, is it safe to jump into the disc brake pool? Asking for a friend. :thumbup:

Imaking20
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by Imaking20

Ha, I'll let you know once I get a chance to ride it! I should point out that an important part of arriving at this point has been letting go of bike weight as much of a factor. It's been a long time since I thought it actually mattered - but still fun to build up light bikes from time to time - and fun to climb a very steep hill on a low-5kg bike. Where I'm living now - there just aren't really those steep climbs. Smooth and fast is the name of the game for me right now.

Oh, and my build sheet is still looking like this one will be under the UCI limit even in tubeless trim :)
romanmoser wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:12 pm
What tubulars will you use on your enve cx ?
I recently remarked that Kreuziger from Qhubeqa had been using cx rims on the tour de france .
They are 28 mm at the brake track right ? Like last generations shimano c40 C60 tubs, are you not affraid yours rims will be too exposed with 25mm tubulars ?

Did you found a 24/24 holes pair of rims ?
All the ones I see IRL were 28 holes
Whoa, that's a lot of questions. I'm not aware of Enve making these rims in 24 hole. Mine have not arrived yet - but are 28/28h. They'll wear Corsa Control 30mm tires.
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dudemanppl
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by dudemanppl

https://btlos.com/road-bike/700c-30mm-d ... -road-bike

i thought these were interesting, 285g claimed for 30mm deep, 26mm wide tubs and $208 each, but they dont say enve :/

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