2017 S-works Roubaix Boonen edition 61cm AXS dream build. Gold and white. AKA Gold finger.

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Hi
I've wanted to build up a new road bike for years and have been waiting for 12 speed to show up so I could keep the same range as my current triple. My 2007 Roubaix has served me well will 16,000+ miles on it. 4 wheelset, 2 cranksets, 3 cassettes and at least 10 chains. Ultegra groupset is still going strong with normal wear and tear.

Standards have finally settled to a stable point with 12mm axles, flat mount brakes and no goofy offsets wheels or other tricks. I'm looking at you Cannondale and Specialized.

I tested a lot of bikes at Sea Otter and while I want an aero bike like a modone or venge, but the stack height plus proprietary stem/bars made fitting hard. I also tend to ride rough roads for long distances so comfort is huge. Price is also a consideration with the etap axs red bikes going for 12K+, it's not worth it for me.

Wheels matter! Light stiff wheel make a bike come alive. I've been on 28mm tires for 10 years and love tubeless, so wide rims are a must. Aero is also important, because free speed! I would hate to buy a complete 8K+ bike and then need to swap wheels, plus I like to build up my bikes myself. Do it right the first time and it saves money in the long run.

Short list of wheels was:
Must have at least 19mm Inner width, tubeless, hooked and 45-65 depth.
I9.45/65
Custom with i9/DT hubs, Enve, derby,light....
DT swiss erc 1100 dicut disk

I9 can be ordered in gold so that was a plus and I wanted a wheelset system vs custom build. In the end the DT was $900 cheaper with a more reliable hub and ceramic bearings. Not that the i9's are not great hubs, I have 2 sets on mountain bikes. While I love the look and speed of 65mm+ wheels it gets windy here and 50mm are a better choice for everyday wheels.

12 speed was a must for overall range. The Campy ESP looks cool and I like the feel of it, but the cassette is limited to 11-32 and local support for parts is nonexistent. That leaves Sram AXS red or force. There is no functional difference in the electronic and the force front derailleur is steel instead of aluminum, so it should shift better. Force also has replaceable chainrings with a separate power meter, win win. I like a 1:1 low ratio and spin out my current 52:11 on our local Mt. Diablo. Getting the 48/35 crank, adding the power meter and swapping to the 33 small ring will give me all the range I need. We will see if this is compatible, but I think it will work. It’s just a ring with no shift ramps.

Breakdown of the build.
Frame: 2017 Specialized S-works Boonen edition 61cm white and gold.
Groupset: Sram AXS force hydro flat mount
Cassette: Force 10-33
Crank: Force 175mm 48/35-33 with power meter
Wheelset: DT Swiss erc 1100 47mm center lock. Going to get gold DT decals. Sticker make you faster.
Tires: Continental Grand Prix 5000 Tubeless 28mm
Handlebars: EC70 Aero 44mm
Stem: Thomson 4X 120 -10deg
Bar tape: Supacaz gold star fade
Bottle cages: Supacaz gold
Pedals: Dura ace
Seat: 2010 selle italia flite gel flow titanium
Rotors Sram 6 bolt 160/160 center lock adapters
Bolts: Gold titanium for most everything.
Storage: Swatbox with some custom extras.

Parts are coming in as I write this.
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Groupset and cranks got here today.
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BBInfinite OSBB PressFit for Dub (29mm) for Road Crank Sets came in today. Installation was a breeze and the cranks spin forever! Getting the bonded in BB30 cups out was much harder than they show in the videos.
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Got the bars rapped too. Gold to star fade.
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Was waiting on the rims to show up and even went down the USPS to get them, but had to wait 1 more day as they had not been return to the main office.

Here they are; DT Swiss ERC 1100. Swaped the ceramic bearing into the XDr driver which saved 3-4g
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GP5000 28mm TL tires
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Next I checked dish and true on the wheels and rotors. Wheels were absolutely perfect! Rotors need a little bit of massaging.
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Everything is fitted with gold titanium bolts. Still waiting on all the glamor shots and a couple more small details.
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by mbaulfinger

Beautiful build! Love it

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by tonytourist

That's quite the upgrade from the previous Roubaix!
How is the ride?

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mbaulfinger wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:10 am
Beautiful build! Love it
Thanks. I'm loving it.
tonytourist wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:56 am
That's quite the upgrade from the previous Roubaix!
How is the ride?
Thanks.

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I now have 100 miles on the bike and so far it is great. Overall ride quality is excellent. Smooth as can be on the rough stuff and stiff under the pedals. The future shock moves a little more than I want it to hammering out of the saddle while climbing or sprinting, but it’s a very small thing and the payoff is worth it. The flex from a stock stem and bars is completely absent with the Thomson/Easton combo. Stock bikes have noticeable flex side to side. This is not part of the Future shock. :shock:

My first ride down the street made me think the front tire was flat. I pulled back into my driveway and the future shock absorbed the hit. It was so soft feeling vs the hard impact it normally is. I got off the bike and squeezed the tire, nope not flat. :oops:

The stiff bar and stem combined with the Future shock adds a broad range of comfort and control to the bike. The new shock vs splay of the old bike is completely different in a good way.

Brakes are so good. It’s almost scary how powerful they are. I final have them adjusted the way I like and learning the feel of them at the limit. :unbelievable:

The Good:
Frame/ paint quality is excellent.
Looks. I love Gold!
All parts Included for every possible configuration of drive train.
Ride quality! So Smooth. Front to rear balance is good. More cush up front for sure. Seat post has a lot of comfort flex.
Handling and traction. Future shock makes the bike stick to the ground. Geometry makes changes in direction telepathic.
Disk brakes! I love them and they are everything I want them to be. Too much power is just enough.
Electronic shifting is pretty cool. Syhnro shift is my preferred shift mode.
Gears. 33-33 and 48-10 gears make for a huge range.

The Bad:
Weight. Future shock adds 320ish grams to the fork. Seat post is also just over 300g.
Seat post looks and weight. Not a fan of the kink by the seat. Also needs to be 400mm long
Press fit BB. I took the extra step of cutting out the BB30 cups to convert back to OSBB Pressfit and added a BBinfinite assembly. It should be bomb proof now.
Waterslide decals on the DT wheels. More on this in another post.
Overall weight of the bike. 19.4lb, 8.8kg with pedals, cages, computer mount and rear light. It is a 61cm and every part is built strong for the long run.
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Ordered the the decals for the wheels today. Removing the old ones was a nightmare. :shock:

They are water slide decals, which are basically permanent. First I tried scraping with a plastic tool combined with vinegar/hot water rag. No luck. Next was 99% alcohol, which worked slowly, but was not enough. Next I taped off the area and used acetone. I tested it on a small section and it lifted the decal off with no damage to the rim. Gloves, a well vented garage and a rag with acetone quickly separated the decals from the rim. I cleaned up with 99% alcohol and the rims are ready for the new decals.

Not fun and huge pain to remove versus regular stickers. The things we do to color match. 8)

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I wanted to put this here too. also posted it in the Drivetrain page.

Now that I have some time on the Force AXS group I wanted to share my thoughts.
My setup is full Force, 10-33 cassette and 175mm power meter crank with custom 33/48 chain rings. It’s installed on a 2017 61cm S-Works Roubaix.

I absolutely love the range! 33-33 makes climbing steep hills a joy. There is no noise at either end of the cassette and the 48-10 helps blasting down the same hill. Shifting is fast and for the most part seamless. Having the gear indicator on my Garmin is super nice as I never need to look down and see gear changes I didn’t feel. Synchro shift works perfectly and is easy to toggle on or off with the press of a button. The front change + 2 rear shifts are a little clunky as you would expect, but it is exactly the shifts you want/need for the next gear. It’s easy to keep track of when it will shift so you can plan for it. I turn it off for small ring 1 hour long climbs and turn it back on at the top.

Front shifts are a 2 stage affair with a push-push motion that guides the chain up or down more than forces it. Seems to work fast enough and I haven’t had any problems. There is no feel at the lever like mechanical systems. It’s taken a little bit to get used to that.

Rear shifter is fast and unremarkable. It just shifts and does it when you push the buttons. Click-shift, no fuss. The clutch seems to work as desinged too, no chain slap or noise on rough roads.

Shifters have a great feel with tactile feedback and I really like the single button on each side arrangement. 1 go faster and 1 go slower. Very elegant. Ergonomics are very good with comfortable hand positions and no annoying pinch points or sharp edges. I have set the max number of shifts from a button hold to 3. It’s nice to dump 3 gears and know that it is exactly 3 when you are slowing for a corner at high speed. Shifting and braking are taking some new techniques. With Shimano mechanical I could dump gears with my right hand while braking and it was a smooth transition. This is more of a shift, then brake, but I’m getting better at it.

Garmin integration has gear, battery, power and cadence. All work as they should. Gear front/rear is my favorite feature. It’s nice to know that I have 1 or 2 shifts left up or down and it makes the auto front shift easy to keep track of.

Installation was so easy it was comical. Push the button to pair and bolt it on. Setup guides where well written and all adjustments work exactly how they are supposed to.

Hydro brakes came pre-bleed, but my frame need internal routing and cut for size. Running stock 160/160mm. Bleed was easy with the pro kit. Took my time and only had to bleed the levers. Feel and modulation was okay with no free play. I adjusted them to about the same free play as my old brakes and feel improved dramatically. Still getting used to the extra power and lighter force required. They make me giggle with how fast they slow me down. Every time I test them, I can’t help smiling that they have so much more to offer as soon as I learn their limits. You want to slow down yesterday, well okay then. :thumbup:

There is some very slight noise on a couple of gear combo in the middle of the cassette and I am still fine tuning the system to get that sorted. It’s really nothing, but if I’m trying to find any little things this would be something. :noidea:

Big thumps up from me. 8 out of 10 with -1 for price and -1 for weight. :beerchug:

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Can you explain what you meant by cutting out the bonded-in BB30 cups?

Did you mean removing the stock BB30 cups which were pressfit into the frame or actually cutting out the aluminum BB shell which was bonded to carbon at the factory?

I’m not an expert on how Specialized bikes are built but the latter sounds...unwise.

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kkibbler wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:16 am
Can you explain what you meant by cutting out the bonded-in BB30 cups?

Did you mean removing the stock BB30 cups which were pressfit into the frame or actually cutting out the aluminum BB shell which was bonded to carbon at the factory?

I’m not an expert on how Specialized bikes are built but the latter sounds...unwise.
It sounds exactly as bad as it was. The stock bb30 cups are bonded into the frame to fix the crappy osbb pressfit specialized standard. Basically you start with narrow 61mm carbon pf30, bond in 68mm bb30 metal cups and then press a sram dub 90mm BB into that.
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I did not know this was a thing. That is insane.

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Very nice build and informative write up. The removal of the bonded cups from the frame takes some real balls! That does not look like something easy. One of the comments on the YouTube video you linked summed it up best. "That's brutal"
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godzuki26 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:26 pm
Very nice build and informative write up. The removal of the bonded cups from the frame takes some real balls! That does not look like something easy. One of the comments on the YouTube video you linked summed it up best. "That's brutal"
Thanks! Love your builds.
It was a pucker moment for sure. I was going to just let the crappy BB live until it died, but it was eating at me and I just had to fix it. Glad that I took the time and did it.

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