Godzuki26 thinks there needs to be a Weightweenie Scott Scale 900 SL build in the USA. So here we go!

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MartinRa
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They just showed the new piccola @eurobike and it comes with a new caliper and stock carbon brake levers

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MartinRa wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:25 am
They just showed the new piccola @eurobike and it comes with a new caliper and stock carbon brake levers
Godzuki i'll give you $50 for your outdated set, if you want the new set 8) :lol:

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@Hopp - I was going with the rainbow neochrome theme on this bike so my plan is to heat anodize all the titanium bolts to rainbow.

If anyone was wondering why I chose the brakes with the silver hose connectors rather than the Black was to attempt to heat anodize them to rainbow. Unfortunately, I cannot heat anodize the silver banjos because they are stainless steel instead of titanium. I thought the silver bits would be titanium :(

Heat anodizing is a pretty easy process. Just do the following:

1. Alcohol wipe the bolts. Make sure there is no grease or finger prints.

2. Grab some pliers with rubber handles so you don’t burn yourself to death.

3. Watch the titanium bolt first turn to yellow, then gold, then purple, then blue. You have to play around a bit to see what blends look the best.

4. If you don’t want the bolt to be a shiny rainbow color, just sand the bolt to give it a flat finish. Then put the heat gun on it. I did this for the Trickstuff brake clamp bolts only. You can see the difference in the pics.

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I saw the the new Trickstuff caliper. It looks like they changed the hose connector and did some more machining. I am puzzled at the announcement that their brake sets will now come with only carbon levers without too much of an upcharge. Trickstuff appears to be a CNC machining specialist and they really have not made carbon fiber parts in the past. I am interested to know if they will outsource the production of the carbon fiber levers to a carbon specialist like Hopp, or will they produce them in house? Does anybody know?
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if Hopp says he isn't making them anymore! maybe they've have found another source or as you said are making them in house and so cutting him out of the loop?

Trickstuff Piccola C22

News is also available at the Piccola brake. The lightweight caliper gets a thorough update missed. By a slightly modified design, a higher rigidity could be achieved. Also the cable outlet has been changed: This now runs straight and leaves the saddle on the inside. Despite the changes, the same brake pads can still be used. Also at the dealer there is a small change: From now on the Piccola will only be sold with carbon levers. This allowed you to maintain the low weight despite the slightly heavier saddle. Who wants to call the good piece his own must shell out a price of 450 € per brake.

Stiffer caliper and modified cable outlet
Available with postmount and flatmount standard
Price 450 € (per brake)

the lever looks like its made like the the new Tune saddles, ie a carbon composite rather than layered fibres.

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@Poynt - I really really really really really really hope that Hopp makes more carbon levers. I don't like the aluminum levers. They feel cold to the touch. Lol!!! I need carbon badly. The carbon levers on the upcoming Piccolas do not look as weighweenie as the ones Hopp was making. If I got those new levers I would Dremel them to make them look like the Hopp levers.
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They do look like the ones on the maguras, solid with a bitty moulded look, not classy who h concidering the style and work of the actual calipers etc seems a pitty

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godzuki26 wrote:@Hopp - I was going with the rainbow neochrome theme on this bike so my plan is to heat anodize all the titanium bolts to rainbow.

If anyone was wondering why I chose the brakes with the silver hose connectors rather than the Black was to attempt to heat anodize them to rainbow. Unfortunately, I cannot heat anodize the silver banjos because they are stainless steel instead of titanium. I thought the silver bits would be titanium :(

Heat anodizing is a pretty easy process. Just do the following:

1. Alcohol wipe the bolts. Make sure there is no grease or finger prints.

2. Grab some pliers with rubber handles so you don’t burn yourself to death.

3. Watch the titanium bolt first turn to yellow, then gold, then purple, then blue. You have to play around a bit to see what blends look the best.

4. If you don’t want the bolt to be a shiny rainbow color, just sand the bolt to give it a flat finish. Then put the heat gun on it. I did this for the Trickstuff brake clamp bolts only. You can see the difference in the pics.

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These look great and all but have you considered the effect on the mechanical properties of the Ti bolts? If memory serves Ti's properties dont change that much when heat treated but what grade of Ti are they? If it's a Titanium alloy, depending on the grade you could be significantly altering the tensile, yeild strength etc. I'd be seriously cautious about heat treating my rotor bolts! Image

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@Doug - thanks for looking out. Maybe this is suicide as these bolts are also hollow. It was only about 3 seconds of heat to achieve the colors. I'm ok with the clamp bolts but I may risk catastrophic failure with rotor bolts. I read about this on Reddit too. I may just go with 3 hollow and 3 non hollow and see what happens. I have a set of factory rainbow bolts too but wanted to try DIY.

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:thumbup: No worries. Yeah the clamp I dont think is so much of a risk. The forces at the clamp are relatively low and if it does fail it's far less likely to be catastrophic and more likely to be the result of a crash anyway. The rotor bolts MIGHT be just fine, emphasis on the "might" which is normally where I draw the line for a safety critical component :lol:

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DOUG wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:24 am
These look great and all but have you considered the effect on the mechanical properties of the Ti bolts? If memory serves Ti's properties dont change that much when heat treated but what grade of Ti are they? If it's a Titanium alloy, depending on the grade you could be significantly altering the tensile, yeild strength etc. I'd be seriously cautious about heat treating my rotor bolts! Image
I second this. These bolts should be heat treated at the factory and getting them this hot will change the physical properties of them. Titanium is already a reduction in strength and yours are hollow.

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@Alexbn921 - Understood. The DIY heat treated bolts are gone.

I need help with the THM Clavicula DP crankset. I am using a 2mm spacer on the driveside Crank arm to leave space between the chainstay and the chainring. I am using no spacers on the non drive side. The problem I have is the THM carbon spindle does not seem long enough when passing through the frame. Is the bottom bracket width on the Scott Scale 900 too wide for the THM carbon spindle? How in the world have others installed this crank on modern mountain framesets? Can I or should I remove the 2mm spacer on the drive side? On the last pic, the spindle does not go all the way through!!!! I have room and can still fit the Preload cap but it seems unsafe. Please help!!!!!!

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What bottom bracket are you using?

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@Attermamn:
godzuki26 wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:13 am
Poynt was able to hook me up with these handmade carbon fiber bottom bracket cups. They will work with the 30mm spindle on the e*Thirteen XCX Race cranksets coming in soon. Before you hate on it, just look at it for what it is. Something uber light, something handmade, something unique, and something for a show bike that you would probably not want to race on. These cups belonged to Moyo and he told Poynt that they did not work too well with his THM Clavicula mountain cranks. I freaking love them and cannot stop looking at them because I would not be able to make something like this myself.

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