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DOUG
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by DOUG

@Colnago why did you bypass the internal routing? I really like the fact that the bar tape is nice an smooth and doesnt have a lump where its wrapped over the cables. I found it pretty easy to run the cables as well even with the stiff hydraulic lines.

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Calnago
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@Doug... are you running Etap hydro? That’s why. Try running two mechanical housings through the internal guides and you’ll see where the problems start. They may have even updated this bar since the one I did for that very reason. But one hydro or mechanical brake housing through there would not be a problem. And I think it was also forcing the derailleur cables to be used in the channel of the Campy ergo levers that I avoid like the plague because it has an acute bend as it exits the shifter similar to Shimano levers and eventually is the point that the cable may start to fray. With the round to the front option the cables, kept clean, could be in good Service for years. Plus, once it’s wrapped you really don’t notice the cables at all.
As much as I prefer mechanical shifting, perfect shifting requires smooth unencumbered cable runs. If you can’t achieve that, you’re probably better off with electric... TT bikes being a good example.
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Wookski wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:18 am
Forgot how rad the Obermeyers on Veloflex carbons were. Also brings the system weight down to 6.68kg. Not bad for a non weight focussed steel build.
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There is nothing on God's good earth that rides like narrow steel on lightweights. I got a whole bunch of bikes, but if I need a smile, I know where I'm going.
Cysco Ti custom Campy SR mechanical (6.9);Cannondale SS Evo Di2 7970 (5.79); Willier Cento Uno Air Di2 9070 (7.0); C40 Mk2 DA 7800 ; Anvil Custom steel Etap;1996 Colnago Technos Record

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Calnago
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glepore wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:41 am
There is nothing on God's good earth that rides like narrow steel on lightweights. I got a whole bunch of bikes, but if I need a smile, I know where I'm going.
Reading this gives me a smile. Riding lightweights on any kind of remotely gusty descent quickly takes it away I'm afraid.
Colnago C64 - The Naked Build; Colnago C60 - PR99; Trek Koppenberg - Where Emonda and Domane Meet;
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DOUG
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Calnago wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:38 am
@Doug... are you running Etap hydro? That’s why. Try running two mechanical housings through the internal guides and you’ll see where the problems start. They may have even updated this bar since the one I did for that very reason. But one hydro or mechanical brake housing through there would not be a problem. And I think it was also forcing the derailleur cables to be used in the channel of the Campy ergo levers that I avoid like the plague because it has an acute bend as it exits the shifter similar to Shimano levers and eventually is the point that the cable may start to fray. With the round to the front option the cables, kept clean, could be in good Service for years. Plus, once it’s wrapped you really don’t notice the cables at all.
As much as I prefer mechanical shifting, perfect shifting requires smooth unencumbered cable runs. If you can’t achieve that, you’re probably better off with electric... TT bikes being a good example.
Ah ok makes sense. Yep Im running E-Tap Hydro

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Calnago wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:44 am
glepore wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:41 am
There is nothing on God's good earth that rides like narrow steel on lightweights. I got a whole bunch of bikes, but if I need a smile, I know where I'm going.
Reading this gives me a smile. Riding lightweights on any kind of remotely gusty descent quickly takes it away I'm afraid.
Unless you’re talking gale force winds it’s actually not that bad. A gentle push here or there is all part of the experience :lol:

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