Colnago C64 - Inside and Out

[Calnago]

Quite the title I know... You'll see why... over the next day or two.
[edit]: Feb 23, 2018 decided to change the thread title to Colnago C64 - Inside and Out, from "Colnago C64 - The Naked Build". It was a fun title since I was about to just talk about the frame without actually putting a single part on it... hence the "Naked Build". But the thread has expanded into something much more substantial than I inititally intended... and rather than risk my Colnago C64 thread being lumped into a lot of internet porn searches, I decided to take the "Naked" part out of the title. It's still porn, mind you, but it's just bike porn.

For now, the crown jewel...


Nitey nite!

[majklnajt]

[fromtrektocolnago]

bit by the bug so soon?

[coriordan]

Subscribed

[Look565w]

Quite the title I know... You'll see why... over the next day or two.
For now, the crown jewel...


Nitey nite!

Oh, your dancer!

Is this one for yourself or one for your “clients”?

What does the “silver logo” on the lug mean? Do you have any idea, Calnago?

Cheers

[dgasmd]

I like the frame, but the main tubes in black while the rest in other colors is a choice that has never appealed to me. Maybe because it reminds me too much of the first carbon bikes in the 90's that had the main lugs in carbon and the joints in aluminium in different colors.

[Seedster]

This will certainly be worth subscription. Looking forward to the details


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[Johnny Rad]

bit by the bug so soon?

No sense in waiting to be 2nd! Eager to see this come around...

[LorneMalvo]

I wouldn‘t be surprised if Mr Calnago managed to get his hands on the one and only C64 with traditional geometry ever produced I really do hope that‘s not the case because I would be very very jealous then


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[majklnajt]

They dont do make it with horizontal top tube?!?
Did not knew that....

[Calnago]

Ok... I'm going to make myself a coffee now then sit down to show you what I've got. First of all, it's not mine. I just had access to it for a while. During that time I basically went through all the scenarios and potential build issues that one might encounter when building this thing up with a mechanical groupset, which I am very fond of. I took a bunch of pics, so this will be a very picture laden thread (I can sense your disappointment). So, just sit tight and I'll be back to pummel you with the photos that you won't see in most magazine "reviews". I could have easily just posted all this in the other thread that's already very long, but I think I have enough detail and stuff I want to talk about specifically that it warrants it's own thread. I call it The Naked Build because I'm not actually going to be building it up, but there's essentially nothing about building this frame that I haven't already shown in my C60 Build Thread . Where a few differences exist I will talk about them. But mostly I'm just going to give a quick run through of the frame and my thoughts. For the most part, it's all good, with just a couple little nitpicks. Back shortly...

[edit]: On Feb 23, 2018 I changed the title of this thread to Colnago C64 - Inside and Out

[AndreLM]

Thanks for that! This is exactly what I miss from most “reviews”: actual details about what people that enjoy bike tech really cares.
One thing I did not see yet, and I hope you clear up with your pictures is how wire routing for electric / rim brake groupsets work: using the entry port on the downtube, or close to the brake cable entry port on the top tube?

[Calnago]

What does the “silver logo” on the lug mean? Do you have any idea, Calnago?

I don't know what that little logo itself actually "means", but in a nutshell my understanding is that during production, it’s an open hole that they can peek in and make sure everything is going ok, and perhaps even have better access to the insides to make sure the cable routing holes are free of any carbon residue from the molds, at least that'd be my guess. Then they plug it up at the end and cover it with that logo. Curious why they did that and brought such conspicuous attention to it... not sure why they just don't plug it up and finish it perfectly along with the rest of the lug. Mabye they want to brag about how they're checking every little detail along the way during the production process.

[Calnago]

I immediately gravitated toward the front end... no, I take that back, the first thing I gravitated towards was the seatcluster, but I figure I should start at the front for presentation purposes...


What can I say...you guys have probably been staring at the "stepdown" dimensioning of the headtube (and fork) as much as I have. Is it just a design feature? Does it actually make things structurally different? I'm not sure, I kind of don't think so. I'm just so glad it doesn't have any of those "zertz" like inserts as far as I can tell. I guess you either like it or you don't. I probably like the clean lines of say, my C59 or C60 a bit more, but the new design is in keeping with the rest of the frame’s tube shapes I suppose. Sort of carries the C60's lugs that matched the shape of the tubes to a new level I guess.

Then, there's the same design feature in the fork...


Again, does it really do anything performance wise... I don't know but I'm thinking I wouldn't be able to tell if it did. But it does distinguish the C64 from it's older C60 sibling, and that's part of what any new model needs to do. You're not going to confuse this with a C60, a very important aspect of marketing. This is the "latest and greatest", and it's easy to tell them apart. The fork does have a new profile and it's very nice.

[Lightweenie]

I thought the headtube shape was like that to facilitate integrated disc-brake routing (in combination with the new stem)...