Hitting Reset: My Litespeed T2

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SLCBrandon
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by SLCBrandon

Imaking20 wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:01 am
Dang, surprised to hear that! I think it's the most interesting bike I've built for sure. The blue bike was probably the most visually impressive - but I am really liking the industrial feel of the raw carbon and metal on this one.
I absolutely love the look of Ti as a base for a build but then marrying the right components is key and I think you nailed it. The decals with the matte UD carbon bits, wheel depth, geo, EE’s etc are all really perfect on this.

This makes me want to copy you and Ryan and get a Ti bike.

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by Imaking20

Thank you - I appreciate the positive comments! :beerchug:
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by NoBlink

I absolutely love the look of Ti as a base for a build but then marrying the right components is key and I think you nailed it. The decals with the matte UD carbon bits, wheel depth, geo, EE’s etc are all really perfect on this.

This makes me want to copy you and Ryan and get a Ti bike.
This.

Imaking20
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by Imaking20

Updated parts list. There were some errors in the last version that have been irritating a certain moderator...

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I snagged some 9000 C24 tubulars recently and took them out for a spin over the weekend. The finish quality is, unsurprisingly, very good. Looking forward to putting in more miles on them to get more of an opinion about their performance. And some pictures!
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Imaking20
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by Imaking20

Eek, it is tough to pick up the actual color of the graphene gumwalls with a cell phone!

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Sitting at 5734g :)
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Imaking20
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by Imaking20

Now I'm just collecting wheels while rain has me stuck on the hamster wheel. Picked up the new C40 tubular which will vie for the "daily" spot that's currently held by the 46. The Reynolds has really proven to be a quiver killer... But now I'm half-heartedly wanting to build up a quiver.

The finish quality of the Shimano wheel is really outstanding. Aesthetically, they are more reminiscent of Enve SES wheels than I had expected - which is nice because I'd pondered snagging a set of 3.4s. Total weight is 1372g so they'll be giving up ~130g to my Reynolds. I should have 4-5 hours on Saturday to make an impression if the braking and ride quality will be good enough to unseat the Aeros

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by KarlC

Those C40s look good dressed in black
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by Imaking20

You mean the C40s?
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KarlC
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by KarlC

Imaking20 wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:48 pm
You mean the C40s?
Yes .... fixed

ChaosHokie
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by ChaosHokie

My search-fu is kind of weak, but why don't you like the Lynskey R350? How would you describe the differences between the Lynskey and the T2? I was considering building a R350 up since the framesets are relatively inexpensive for Ti, and I've been wanting to try out Ti for a while now... My "amazing, best carbon frame, do-it all machine" feels kind of 'blah'. Trying to decide if I should search for something like a T2 myself.

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by Imaking20

I wouldn't say I don't like the R350 - there were some aesthetic reasons it wasn't a keeper. Seat tube diameters on Ti bikes seem to primarily be large enough to accommodate a 31.6 post, yet Lynskey shim theirs down for a 27.2. It may be more compliant, but I definitely didn't like the look of that transition. The tube shapes also weren't my favorite (to be fair, the tube shapes on the T2 also aren't my favorite). The more I looked, the more I realized that creasing/shaping in the tubes are pretty commonplace if you're looking for a Ti bike that's not a noodle.

I tried the R350 for the same reason you just said. It was a cheap way to get into Ti and it was enough for me to realize I did want to commit to the new (old) material. Having compared the two frames side-by-side, I'd say the design of the T2 is more complex but the quality of construction between the two (welds and finish) is quite close. Both bikes will be more than competent serving as a race bike - with the Lynskey having a decided advantage in comfort. The T2 is easily on par with every feeling of stiffness and responsiveness that I've been accustomed to riding big name carbon frames for the last few years - but it does take out some vibration that is present with carbon. That difference is subtle and I can't say that riding my C60 I ever felt like I needed a bike that was more comfortable - because I wouldn't want to sacrifice the sportier elements of the frame. The Litespeed makes no sacrifice.

I may own another carbon bike at some point if/when the time comes that I want to own more than a single bike. So far, I can't see a reason why I'd go back to carbon instead of Ti though.
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by Denavelo

Imaking20 wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:12 pm
I'm 6' and 165lb. I've ridden steel before and would agree with your perception at least (even if I know that feeling is more in my head than anything - I've set KOMs on my Soma over lighter friends on carbon). This bike is NOT like steel I've ridden. I've put in a couple bug uphill sprints on this bike and it didn't yield - can't say the same for steel. Where I live now, most rides seem to be 100+ ft of climbing per mile. I went out after work the other day (a day which was deadlifts and leg press at the gym) and did 13 miles and 1800' of climbing and it never remotely crossed my mind that the bike was a hindrance, even on the 15%+ pitches. There is no delay when I jump on this thing. Even the Lynskey is significantly more responsive than steel I've ridden - and it's more comfortable than any carbon bike I've ridden.

So I get the pro Carbon argument. I think most people would make it. I'm just saying that after 15 carbon bikes, 2 aluminum, 1 steel, and now this, I believe the argument is a lie.


Edit: but don't everyone go out and buy one. The last thing I want is for there to be a new LS build on this forum every 3 days like there is with SS Evo :p

After riding my first Ti bike (Firefly #419) for the last two weeks, I now see what you were talking about! This bike rips like nothing I've ever ridden. It has the snap of a carbon bike and plush ride of steel x100 on super boost. Ti just mutes the road and it's a trip feeling this for the first time. I'm running 27mm Vlaanderen tires and they add to the plush ride of this Ti bike. I have 1" chainstays, PF30 and 44mm HT on my Firefly. I'm sold on Ti. I tossed on the Schmolke 30 TLO wheels laced to Tune 45 / Tune 150 hubs. BUTTER!!

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Imaking20
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by Imaking20

That FF looks great. I've got zero regrets on my commitment to Ti so far. Now just procrastinating about wheels again!
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by stormur

RyanH wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:41 pm
garjo wrote:Why swapping SR groupset with DA instead of Red22 (lighter)?
Cause one is a Timex and the other is a Rolex...
not Rolex... at most Seiko, rather Casio recently ;)
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
Mark Twain


I can be wrong, and have plenty of examples for that ;)

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terrible1
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by terrible1

Beautiful steed, I've been biding my time for a second-hand Litespeed in the correct size.
I need titanium after the last three years rattling about on a 2013 Scott Addict, whether it be traversing crusty UK flats or bombing squirly hills at 40mph+. My '90s steel Gazelle is more fun to ride, sad to say.

Lynskey and VN just aren't.... cool enough...

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