Lurker and Occasional Poster - Colnago E1 Build

[alistaird]

All,

Long term lurker and recent occasional poster... This isn't a WW build yet but as it matures and if I like the ride then it will progress to a more WW build.

Always wanted a Colnago and found an interesting frame on the 'bay out of Hungary which looked genuine. The E1 was only made for a very short time but is a genuine Made in Italy frame and where possible I want to keep to a Made (or at worst designed) in Italy theme.
Where ever possible costs are kept down either with 'sale/NOS' parts or 2nd hand of the 'bay or other forums.


Current build is:
Colnago E1 Frame and Forks
Campagnolo Record Headset
Selle Italia Monolink Post and SLR Saddle
Deda Pressa Handlebars
FSA Stem
Fulcrum Racing 3 Wheels
Campagnolo Record RD
Campagnolo Super Record FD (with a replacement Athena cage) - the original carbon cage was nearly worn through
Campagnolo Record Shifters
Campagnolo Record 11 speed cassette
Campagnolo OverTorque Comp Ultra cranks
Tune (Italian Thread) BB (Campagnolo don't support Italian Thread BB on the OT cranks)
Michelin Giro D'Italia 19mm tyres (I have 5 of these so they need to be used...)
Alpha Carbon Cages

To install
Nokon cables
Record chain

To buy:
Miche SWR brakes
Cinelli Red Hook tape
...

Current weight is just over 7kg so hoping the full build will be under 8kg.

I know there are some easy weight wins here - tubes, removing the Puncture protection from the tyres (I want to get more than 5 miles on my first ride )

Some not very good phone camera pics:

IMG_20161025_132625 by A&D D, on Flickr

IMG_20161025_132757 by A&D D, on Flickr

IMG_20161025_132643 by A&D D, on Flickr

IMG_20161025_132700 by A&D D, on Flickr

IMG_20161025_132719 by A&D D, on Flickr

IMG_20161025_132727 by A&D D, on Flickr

IMG_20161025_132745 by A&D D, on Flickr

IMG_20161025_132827 by A&D D, on Flickr

The protective stickers are still on the cranks along with the alignment sticker on the cage and some tape to make sure it's in line with my bike fitting, there is some touch up paint on the frame as it's 10+ years old, and the rear skewer is an old one as the bike is mounted on my turbo trainer as I build it up and test it.

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[alistaird]

I know this isn't any way near a WW build but I will be looking for advice on how to lighten the bike once it's built up and running - if I like the ride...

At the moment, cost is a concern so I'm buying used and/or on 'sale' items. Ideally keeping as much Italian as possible at the moment but this will change as I try and lighten the final build. Where possible though I am buying the lightest I can find at a sensible price e.g. the Cranks, cages etc.

So far this is what it's looking like:

Frame with Record headset

DSC_0038 by A&D D, on Flickr

Fork with crown race

DSC_0037 by A&D D, on Flickr

Alpha cages and bolts

DSC_0050 by A&D D, on Flickr

Fulcrum Racing 3 rear wheel with tube, tyre and puncture protection (I don't want to be walking home on my first test ride)

DSC_0039 by A&D D, on Flickr

Racing 3 front wheel as above.

DSC_0040 by A&D D, on Flickr

Record 11 speed cassette

DSC_0041 by A&D D, on Flickr

Control tech skewers

DSC_0042 by A&D D, on Flickr

Record RD with Far Near jockey wheels etc.

DSC_0043 by A&D D, on Flickr

Super Record FD with Athena cage

DSC_0044 by A&D D, on Flickr

FSA Stem, Record top cap, carbon spacer and bolts

DSC_0045 by A&D D, on Flickr

Deda Pressa carbon bars plus Record Ergo Shifters (having just set the provisional build to my bike fit, didn't want to remove the Ergos)

DSC_0046 by A&D D, on Flickr

Tune Italian thread BB cups

DSC_0047 by A&D D, on Flickr

Campag Over Torque Ultra Comp with washers (on the re-build am trying a wavy washer instead- note that OT does NOT support Italian thread BB so my build is without the normal adjustable 2mm spacer (I haven't the space and am trying a wavy washer instead to ensure there is no play in the NDS)

DSC_0048 by A&D D, on Flickr

Old style Look/Campag Record pedals - these are the ones with the Campagnolo Record axles

DSC_0049 by A&D D, on Flickr

Selle Italia Monolink post and SLR saddle.

DSC_0052 by A&D D, on Flickr

Noname seatpost clamp.

DSC_0051 by A&D D, on Flickr

I've got Nokon cables to go on and am considering some KCNC brake calipers at the moment...

Clear areas for improvement are the wheel/tub/tyre combination and the pedals. I have a pair of these which I might try (but as there are no cleat replacements available I'm careful when I use them)



Any other obvious areas for easy weight gains?

Thanks

A

[kgt]

Pedals, saddle-seatpost combo, stem, wheels.

[alistaird]

Pedals, saddle-seatpost combo, stem, wheels.

Thanks, Pedals and wheels I guessed but will look at saddle/seatpost and stem.

A

[alistaird]

First full build up. A few things have changed. Wheels based on OEM from the one on-line review I found. Not had a chance to ride it yet, waiting for a decent spell of weather here in the UK. I don't want to get it wet...

DSC_0051 by A&D D, on Flickr

DSC_0056 by A&D D, on Flickr

DSC_0060 by A&D D, on Flickr

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[kulivontot]

Short answer is that everything except the campy group is pretty heavy. The frame / fork especially is about 1kg more than a modern lightweight frameset (although maybe not in your size), but you've got an uphill battle to 6.8kg. Stick with stuff you can take with you to a new frame pretty easily (seat, post, wheels)

[alistaird]

So, one new hip later - and I'm back looking at a rebuild of this bike. Plan was always to ride it to see if I liked the frame and then get it re-finished as it had seen some wear and tear in its time.



Frame was done by a local guy who mainly does motor bikes and Formula 1 parts for a lot of the teams based near Silverstone. All I said was I wanted an Italian Flag theme and this is what the result is. I'm really pleased and I'd replaced the alloy steerer forks with a full carbon Colnago fork.

Now this will be a slow build along with the one you can see behind. Both these bikes were only made for a few years around the same time 2006/7. The E1 is interesting in that it's a monocoque front triangle and bonded rear (B-stay I think.) These were made for the heavier and/or stronger rider (and I fall into the first category...) My aim prior to hip surgery was to build this up as light as possible but now I'm aiming for a compromise between weight and functionality as I'm not going to set any PBs...

So first challenge was that the seatpost collar was slightly chamfered probably due to someone over tightening the clamp earlier in its life. I could never get a clamp to fit nicely and this was hard for the guy who painted it to fix fully. Also this is a 34.9mm thickness down tube with a 28mm seatpost. So the best part of 3.5mm thick carbon tube at the collar. Also not a lot of 28mm seatposts so I ended up with a 27.2 and a shim. My solution is to use a double seatpost clamp - not weight weenie but I'm hoping functional. I've never seen a double clamp of 34.9/27.2 so ended up a 34.9/31.6 double.

So how does this work?

First cut the top of the 27.2 to 28 shim to leave a very small ridge to prevent it slipping down the down tube. Secondly, cut the bottom off the 27.2 to 31.6 shim to leave a very short shim to fit in the top half of the clamp.

See the pictures below. (weights to come once I start to build in anger.)







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And this is the result




Much more to come....

A