2016 Propel - Newbie WW

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A2ON
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by A2ON

This is my 2016 Giant Propel Advanced Pro

Weights as pictured a disappointing 8.06kg

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Frame - Giant Propel Advanced Pro M/L
Fork Giant - Propel Advanced Pro Uncut
Wheels - Giant SLR-1 Aero
Wheel skewers - Lifeline Pro Carbon / Ti
Tyres - Vittoria Corsa G+
Tubes - Conti Race 80mm
Cassette - Shimano Ultegra 11/28
Chain - KMC X11L
Crankset - Shimano Utegra
Chain ring outer - Absolute black oval 52
Chain ring inner - Absaloute black oval 36
Pedals - Exustar Keo Pedals (E-PR100PP)
Bottom bracket - Giant Standard BB86
Brake Front - Giant SpeedControl SL
Brake Rear - Giant SpeedControl SL
Front derailleur - Shimano Ultegra
Rear derailleur Shimano Ultegra
Jockey wheels - Shimano Standard
Shifters - Utegra
Bar tape - Lizard skins
Stem Giant - Contact SL 110mm
Bar - Giant Contact SL 42cm 90mm reach
Seatpost Giant - Vector Composite
Saddle - Sworks power pro
Water bottle cage - Elite Stealth
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Voye
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by Voye

Water bottle cage - Elite Stealth

You cages are so stealthy...we can't even see them on the bike ;-)

Nice bike...looks fast.

by Weenie


A2ON
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by A2ON

Voye wrote:Water bottle cage - Elite Stealth

You cages are so stealthy...we can't even see them on the bike ;-)

Nice bike...looks fast.


Ha took them off for a clean I think - 46g each, you'd notice them :)

A2ON
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by A2ON

Some changes to the bike over standard and their weight - I've no real idea about all this so not sure if these things are good are bad but now im on this forum I should be able to make better choices :)

Skewers
Standard 139g - Lifeline Pro Carbon/Ti 44g (-95g)

Saddle
Standard 237g - Specialized Power Expert 235g (-2g)
Chose this saddle for its comfort not its weight although the same thing in s-works trim is just 159g

Chainring Outer
Standard Ultegra 127g - Absolute black oval ring 139g (+12g)

Chainring inner
Standard Ultegra 35g - Absolute black oval ring 37g (+2g)
Changed these for personal preference of oval rings over traditional round.

Tyres
Standard Giant P-SLR1 205g - Vittoria Corsa G Plus 262g (+57g) x 2 . . . (+114g)
Made a small mistake here, I love the tyres but they're not the lightest as you can see

Pics of weights available if anyone wants / need them :)

AZK
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by AZK

Slick bike, not a fan of the 4 bolt bcd cranks but those rings look purposeful & industrial.

1.Maintain the minimum seat post entry, cut off the rest.
2.Remove spacers & cut your fork steerer above the stem, this will be saver/stronger as well for the clamping of the stem to the carbon steerer.
3.That being said I believe some of these Propels come with a alloy steerer. If so maybe look for a carbon one?
4. Fourier V brakes
5. Red cassette

everything else will start being big cash vs grams saved.

A2ON
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by A2ON

AZK wrote:Slick bike, not a fan of the 4 bolt bcd cranks but those rings look purposeful & industrial.

1.Maintain the minimum seat post entry, cut off the rest.
2.Remove spacers & cut your fork steerer above the stem, this will be saver/stronger as well for the clamping of the stem to the carbon steerer.
3.That being said I believe some of these Propels come with a alloy steerer. If so maybe look for a carbon one?
4. Fourier V brakes
5. Red cassette

everything else will start being big cash vs grams saved.


Thanks the cranks I don't like either and since getting the oval ring I like it even less, thinking about getting a Dura ace crank arms as think that will look better with the black ring. I agree about it looking industrial, its machined to make it 'lighter' but as mentioned above its still heavy, i'm sure they could have made it lighter still by removing some of the material completely inside the machined parts but guess they had a reason for not doing this ?!

Thank you for the tips, exactly what i'm here for !

1. Ive had a retul fit now so seat height should remain static as this is 'my' fit so I will look how much is left over

2. Steerer needs to be cut I agree, this is a full carbon steerer (i think the non pro version were carbon fork alloy steerer ?) I am just seeing / checking if i can ride like this all the time, should be fine before cutting it off. I was going to run no spacers and cut the lot off just above the stem if thats what 'usually' done. Would look great too ?!

3. See above

4. Ive read about these a bit but don't know that much about them, i know people used to change to these on the older propels to fit 25mm tyres as it was previously not possible, whats the advantage here lighter I assume ?

5. Sram red is that ? Current cassette is a fair weight one site lists it as 11-28, 292g/ that cant be right ! ha ! If so that means about a 140g saving :)

6. Like i mentioned there is 100g in the tyres alone and probably another 50 by swapping to latex tubes.

Let me know :thumbup:

AZK
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by AZK

A2ON wrote:Let me know :thumbup:


1-3 Agreed, only cut once you're dailed in.

4. I believe the Fourier V Brakes are lighter '219g for the pair (with brake pads), and 246g including the mounting hardware and brake noodles.'. Rather weight your existing brakes before doing this upgrade :)

5. Yes the Sram Red cassette is amazingly light, Its slightly louder when shifting but personally I've always liked the theatre of component noises. There are lighter cassettes but they don't last.

6. I haven't tried latex tubes in a clincher setup. I've heard they are very sensitive to pinching, but are lighter and also improve rolling resistance. Just make sure you check tyre pressure as they also naturally deflate.

A2ON
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by A2ON

AZK - Thanks for the help.

Ordered this a few months ago and its finally arrived, tips the scales at 240g uncut - and its black :D

Will get cut weight old v new once I fit it.

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AZK
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by AZK

Awesome black chain, will go well with the industrial rings

A2ON
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by A2ON

New Zipp bars just arrived too so will be getting these on tomorrow also going back to black bar tape, although will be sad to see the camo tape go :(

beeatnik
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by beeatnik

My chainz are black as well. Mostly cos I never clean my drivetranez.

A2ON
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by A2ON

Some more updates.

Chain is on an looks better as is a bit lighter

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New bars fitted ( Zipp SL70 aero ) not the lightest but still saved some weight and crucially have improved reach and comfort weight is for 40cm CC - cables can also be tidied too when i have more time.

Bars
Standard Giant contact SL 285g - Zipp Sl70 Aero 40cm 230g

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Also changed from 80mm tubes to 42mm with valve extenders, to A) switch to latex tubes that are not available in 80mm and also in my pursuit of stealth :)

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A2ON
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by A2ON

Has anyone ever seen a solution for the cable routing on these as even with the internal on the bars now it still looks less than great

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gazzaputt
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by gazzaputt

Rotor cranks?

Lovely looking Propel. It's a great bike I did like mine but it didn't like me :-(

Had to swap out for a Defy.

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kkibbler
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by kkibbler

The only (non-custom) carbon 1-1/4" stem I know of is the Ritchey Superlogic and you're unlikely to save any weight with it. Stems in general are poor WW targets.

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