Juanmoretime wrote:Lugs suck because its not carbon fiber?
No. Lugs suck because steel frame technology has moved on. Large diameter tubes and TIG welding give stronger and more lightweight frames, larger diameter tubes also produce stiffer frames, and using larger tubes allow them to be shaped so as to improve ride quality. Any Monkey Brain can braze up a lugged frame, or for that matter a fillet brazed frame as well, but yer TIG welding requires skill and know-how.
Lugged frames are child's play.