Ryan's Forever Bike: A Litespeed T1sl #tongue-in-cheek

Who are you (no off-topic talk please)

Moderators: maxim809, MrCurrieinahurry, Moderator Team

Post Reply
RyanH
Moderator
Posts: 3123
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:01 pm
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Contact:

by RyanH

@Theologian T3 is stiffer than the T1sl.

Shaping on the chainstays are practically identical and measured the same. Downtube looked the same but I didn't measure. The seat stays on the T3 were several mm wider. The T3 is also a more compact frame so that ups the stiffness too. I don't know about the butting differences though but I think the chainstays are both triple butted.
Strava
Not for the sensitive types. My Instagram reviews
The Ex's: I've lost track...

Theologian
Posts: 84
Joined: Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:34 am

by Theologian

RyanH wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:54 pm
@Theologian T3 is stiffer than the T1sl.

Shaping on the chainstays are practically identical and measured the same. Downtube looked the same but I didn't measure. The seat stays on the T3 were several mm wider. The T3 is also a more compact frame so that ups the stiffness too. I don't know about the butting differences though but I think the chainstays are both triple butted.
I was under the impression from your review of the T1SL years before that it was just a tad too stiff and not as comfortable as the T3 because of the 6-4 top tube, is that accurate? Or would you say this time around, the T1SL is actually slightly more comfortable? Sorry, I'm just double-checking because it sounds counterintuitive.

by Weenie


Visit starbike.com Online Retailer for HighEnd cycling components
Great Prices ✓    Broad Selection ✓    Worldwide Delivery ✓

www.starbike.com



RyanH
Moderator
Posts: 3123
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:01 pm
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Contact:

by RyanH

I'd say that all around the T1sl is marginally more comfortable on back to back rides with the same tires/wheels. It could just be the larger frame though. Smaller triangle with the same tube sizes should be stiffer.

I made the mistake when I got the T1sl of not doing a back to back with the T3, which is odd since I did that as standard practice with the dozens of other frames I got. I just assumed it was going to be as good if not better. Six months into owning the T1sl I was pretty burnt out and started feeling like I did not enjoy riding this bike. I find that I'm most critical of equipment when I'm tired where little things bother me. This extends to my weekly ebb and flow of Tuesday/Wednesday being tired and riding on crappy roads becomes more annoying than normal.

At the time, I couldn't put my finger on why I disliked it but it just didn't have the snap and liveliness that my T3 did. I may have assumed that was because it was stiffer (most carbon bikes don't have this snap and liveliness) but riding them now back to back now, I see it's because it's not as stiff. It's a subtle difference but that characteristic is why the T3 stays in the mix. With that being said, the Crux has that characteristic and I'd assume the Aethos does too, which is making me consider picking up an Aethos.
Strava
Not for the sensitive types. My Instagram reviews
The Ex's: I've lost track...

dcj10
Posts: 58
Joined: Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:22 pm

by dcj10

Liking this build Ryan. I ran a M/L Ghisallo back in the mid-noughties. It was a dream to ride, and I wish I still had it.
The Aethos Expert I'm riding mostly now, is the nearest I've got to recreating the same feel, or surpassing it actually.

Post Reply