Best weight weenie potential 29er for around €2.5K

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leonlikestrees
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by leonlikestrees

Hi all,

I'm currently deciding on a 29er carbon hardtail, my options are:

Cannodale Flash 29er 3
Scott Scale 29 Pro
Specializaed Stumpjumper Comp 29

Does anyone have the frame weight of those bikes, and complete weight of those bikes?

Also, for what it's worth, any opinion on the handling or other relative merits of the three?

The Scott is the cheapest, and the first thing I would do is put some lighter and nicer cranks on it (perhaps just my old M960's!).

For all of them, I'll probably have to change the stem and saddle, and I may swap the stock wheels for my existing ones (Hope Pro2 on DT X470, Supercomp spokes and alloy nipples), since they are probably lighter and nicer than stock. (Well, won't be able to do it for the lefty, but anyhoo). Other than that, I don't expect to change anythin on the bike for some time.

Thanks,

Leon

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rainerhq
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by rainerhq

leonlikestrees wrote:Scott Scale 29 Pro
Does anyone have the frame weight of those bikes, and complete weight of those bikes?

10,8kg M size
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MartinL
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by MartinL

10,4 for the C´Dale 29

Westifer12
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by Westifer12

The stumpy isn't light!
2011 Trek Paragon 29er | Reba XX 120mm Fork | XX Drivetrain | 160mm White/Carbon Exiler CR Brakes | Thomson 90mm Stem & Post | Easton Monkey Lite Bar | X.9 Hubs to DT Swiss X470's | Schwalbe Rocket Rons

jooo
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by jooo

Not Carbon and not on your list, but have you thought about something like an On-One Scandal? Even their stock XT build claimed weight is about the same as the others you've listed (10.3kg) but leaves you with cash left over for upgrades and you can even sell off some of the stock parts. A build from frame only could also leave you with a light cheap race-able bike. Their Carbon 29er is coming out soon too...

drider85
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by drider85

A large Cannondale Carbon Flash 3 in our shop without pedals is about 24lbs. I like that option not only because I am a bias source but I really like having a BB30 option and a lefty.

jbbikerider
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by jbbikerider

Just built up a medium Orbea Alma 29er carbon weighed in at 19.7 pounds with a Lefty, Hollowgram BB30 cranks, XX drive train and other goodies. This frame kicks butt on my 10 carbon flash 29er.

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keunes
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by keunes

Giant xtc composite 29 1?

N I C K
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by N I C K

Westifer12 wrote:The stumpy isn't light!


Do you know the weight of the Stumpjumper frame? Is it so much heavier than Scott or Cannondale?

Thx

Westifer12
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by Westifer12

N I C K wrote:Do you know the weight of the Stumpjumper frame? Is it so much heavier than Scott or Cannondale?

Thx


I don't know the weight but I know it didn't come across as being as light as you may expect for a carbon hardtail... :(
2011 Trek Paragon 29er | Reba XX 120mm Fork | XX Drivetrain | 160mm White/Carbon Exiler CR Brakes | Thomson 90mm Stem & Post | Easton Monkey Lite Bar | X.9 Hubs to DT Swiss X470's | Schwalbe Rocket Rons

MartinL
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by MartinL

The stumpy alu frame is aproxx. 1540 gr. for 17,5

nealjp
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by nealjp

Not sure if this helps but 21" Specialized HT S-Works Carbon 29'r weighs 1,352g

Asymptotic
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by Asymptotic

rainerhq wrote:
leonlikestrees wrote:Scott Scale 29 Pro
Does anyone have the frame weight of those bikes, and complete weight of those bikes?

10,8kg M size


Negative, 10.8kg is for Comp model that has reba / XT etc.

I have had an XL (21) Scale Pro 29er for 3 months now - bike with stock components came to 10.46kg (no pedals), claimed weight for M is 10.2kg. I thought about your listed options a lot + the Merida 29er (cheapest), in the end the decision came down to the fact that I needed the lightest frame possible because I'm 6'2, also my LBS is a Scott dealer.

Some comments on the Scott, including the weights of some of the stock components (sadly no frame weight, estimate is ~ 1285g):

- The stock wheel-set is literally a boat anchor. I weighed it as soon as I got home from picking it up. Both wheels without skewers and rotors and bolts come to 1976g. Although the rims say 'tubeless ready,' have tried multiple compressors (hitting it with 120psi) at fuel stations with no luck.

- Scott Seatpost / x2 bolts (34.9 x 400m) 296 g (another boat anchor - intend replacing with no-name ebay post -155g
- Selle ItaliaTeam Edition Seat 259 g
- Seatpost Collar / bolt 20 g (pleasantly surprised)
- Scott Alloy Stem (100mm) / 135 g (also pleasantly surprised)
- Scott Hotrod Handlebar (600mm) 246 g
- Scott Lock-On Grips 96 g (replaced with $12 - 18g Ritchey foam grips - awesome g/$ improvement)
- Steerer capbolt + two carbon spacers 9 g
- DT-Swiss 9mm Skewers (Pair) 76 g (quite good weight considering stupid, over-engineered patent lever/lock)
- Swalbe Rocket Ron Evo (only one tyre weighed) 425g
- Rockshox SID fork / cable lockout / no mounting bolts / stock steerer length 1585g
- SRAM 1070 13-36 cassete / lockring 355g

I'm currently building up a 1400g Crest/tune prince/cx-rays wheel-set. Add in a carbon seatpost and handlebars, I think its pretty difficult to go lower than 9.4kg for size XL without going for super exotic parts (e.g. Clavicula)

Hope this info is useful :thumbup:
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