Re: MTB Tubular

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On yes however i is onky another 2mm over the 52mm casing they already have. So conservative.

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I agree. I would like 55mm or more. But it's progress, right?

I have 30mm wide tubular carbon rims to put some tires on; 54mm is about the narrowest I'd use on them.

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LB rims or someone elses?

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XM Carbon Speed.

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Is the wider tyre an ORI or the old style construction?

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by bikerbooy

In Rio Schurtes used normal tubeless tires,not tubulars

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jooo wrote:Is the wider tyre an ORI or the old style construction?

They didn't say.

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Current and former Dugast owners:

How do the tires measure compare to their stated width?

Is a 52mm tubular 52mm wide?

The reason I ask is their FAQ section says this:

"47 mm = 2.1 – this can also vary according to the manufacturer"

A 47mm tire isn't anywhere near a 2.1" tire.

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I have never measured the width. I dont have any dugasts mounted currently to check.

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Anyone knows how the Vitoria tubulars look like.
One review for the Peyote 29 shows one with a tan sidewall.

Additonally any online purchasing source in Europe. Can not find their tubular tires in the web.

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XC-MTB wrote:Anyone knows how the Vitoria tubulars look like.
One review for the Peyote 29 shows one with a tan sidewall.

Additonally any online purchasing source in Europe. Can not find their tubular tires in the web.


The 780g listed and 800g actual weight make them a pretty tough pill to swallow, personally.

That's a HEAVY XC tire.

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Weight is not the big problem. I had good experience with the Saguaro 26 but have problems to get the tires in Europe. Anyone knows an online source?

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Did a few rides on my new tubulars this week. Yeah, they're 26ers. Geax Saguaro and Gato. Both 2" actual.

Overall I am not favorably impressed. There just isn't enough volume. [My tubeless set are Geax too, r 2.25" Goma / f 2.3" Gato]

Tread compound and pattern are fine. The Gato is an excellent design.

I am pretty sure they roll slower on pavement. They go a lot slower over gnarly terrain because of the lower volume. On tight hardpack they are more responsive but there's less grip in turns because the tread is less aggressive than the 2.3" versions. On loose stuff they're pretty bad.

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My front tubular Gato is 2.0" wide and has 43mm of height above the rim.

The front tubeless Gato is 2.25" wide and has 53mm of height above the rim.

So if you want comparable performance out of a tubular, it needs to be larger in width than the clincher you're comparing it to. These tubulars would need to be about 2.4" actual diameter.

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I had the 26" geax saguro tubs and they were hands down the best 26 inch tyre i had, in terms of durability and ojncture resistance.

The geax tyre though is not a fast one though. I have the 29er version now and there are quicker tubless tyre and tubs. My conti race kings race sport tyres are quicker and so are my dugast tubs.

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