Scott Spark 2022

Discuss light weight issues concerning mountain bikes & parts.

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Nejmann
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by Nejmann

robbosmans wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:15 pm
HMX SL 120 Frame is 1870 with rear shock

I like the hidden shock, definitely will prolong the life of the seals

I don’t like the cockpit “integration”, what’s the point of running cables through the headset when the cables are exposed? Makes the stem fork interface unnecessary bulky.
Thought the same.. Doesn't make sense..

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Yeah. The integration on mtbs is bullshit. I like the clean look of a bike with just the brake cables, but definitely don't need hidden cables on an mtb. Would be way cooler if the manufacturers focused on their build quality instead, so the cables are just the right length and nicely routed straight from the box.

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JayDee81 wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:01 pm
Anyone nerdy enough to list some well known frame weights with shock and hardware for comparison? I mean how is the HMF frame doing weight wise?
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by aki

It seems that the new frame is about 100 g heavier than the previous one. Here is my RC900SL (size L) with everything else ripped off than the derailleur hanger. As the trunnion-mounted shock weighs about 300 g (plus mounting hardware), the comparable weight of the old one is about 100 g lighter than 1870 g.

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by snaxez

Are all the pivot bearrings on the inside? that would improve the lifetime and small bump quality

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cula_ru
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by cula_ru

The bike looks great!
But I'm not convinced to buy it!
I'm not understanding the seat tube angle they're advertising.. what a heck is that? Did you check the geometry image?
120mm and 2.6 tires is not my kind of XC ridding, this is trail riding! Also 10.5kg is not very appealing to a weight weenie.
Ok change my mind!

Are they going to release a new Scott Scale?
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by ghostinthemachine

The RC models seem to use 2.4" rubber.
120mm of travel is probably getting more and more useful given how XCO courses are evolving (also why tyres are getting bigger!)
Seat angles have been moving that way for a decade. 10.5 kilos, might not be a weight weenies wet dream, but it's probably a far more capable bike than 99% of the people riding it!
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cula_ru
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I've read somewhere it's compatible with up to 2.6" tires. Wow.
Yes I understand that the XCO courses are getting gnarlier, stepper, technical, harder just for the show maybe, but my local area and trails are still the same!
Anyway, I have to take a test ride on this thing, maybe local scott rep would allow that.

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cula_ru wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:37 am
but my local area and trails are still the same!
keep your current bike then. 😂

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by bikewithnoname

Just because it can fit 2.6 tyres doesn't mean you need to fit them! Nice to have the option, and/or the additonal mud clearance for the winter.
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I think the weight growth is just a little. Less than 100 g for the frame and around 200 g for the fork. Probably something for the rubber, but I wouldn't count that.

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I would be suprised if the whole cockpit situation is lighter than before

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Ok let's see the 2022 Scott Scale!

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ghostinthemachine wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:38 am
cula_ru wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:37 am
but my local area and trails are still the same!
keep your current bike then. 😂

this is the painful truth lol. My lux with it's 69.5* HTa is still perfect for my home trails... no matter how "gnarly XCO courses are getting!"

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