Shimano XT 12 Speed Vs SRAM Eagle 12 Speed - Which Should I buy?

[joeg26er]

Shimano XT 12 Speed Vs SRAM Eagle 12 Speed - Which should I buy?

Looking at this for an enduro 27.5x2.6 full suspension bike

Pros - cons?

[Sammy]

Which eagle?

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[robbosmans]

Sram is lighter


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[joeg26er]

Which SRAM Eagle group is the same level as XT 12?

Is weight the only difference between these two?

[Attermann]

Gx eagle is about the same.

[TurboKoo]

New Shimano HG+ is much much smoother shifting.

[Sammy]

I really like GX, no experience with XT though. I'd stay away from NX. It's not nearly as reliable.

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[markdjr]

XT shifts better, less maintenance and better gear range

[TheRich]

At this point I'd be concerned about freehub availability if this is going on an existing bike.

Other than that, just go for the best price.

[AnkitS]

At this point I'd be concerned about freehub availability if this is going on an existing bike.

Other than that, just go for the best price.

Sram eagle cassettes are compatible with Shimano 12 speed rear derailleurs.

[XCProMD]

I’ve racing enduro since 2005 and one of the lessons learned is that enduro bicycles have a much tougher life. Actually tougher than DH in which the runs are shorter, I’d say.

One of the components that suffer the most, and one that very often can ruin your race is the RD. Actually when we started using only one chainring the idea was to simplify the whole drivetrain so the RD could work in a simpler fashion.

SRAM got it right early here. Their X-Horizon RD, among other things, makes impossible ghost shifts due to the inertial forces on the cage and outermost knuckle, which was a common source of trouble which often ended with a RD wrapped around the cogs.

The new Shimano 12s derailleurs follow the same principle (no more slant parallelogram), but unfortunately are still proving to be weaker than SRAM. On top of that we got a batch which feels super stiff at the lever (XTR). Another problem is the new microspline thing (couldn’t they just use an XD body??), there are not so many rear hubs really available (catalogs are another thing).

The best bang for the buck is considered to be X01 lever, GX derailleur and X01 cassette ( to reduce unsprung mass ). Money can be saved on GX level cassette and smoother shifting comes at the cost of getting a XX1 lever.

Hope that helps.


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[Ritxis]

I’ve racing enduro since 2005 and one of the lessons learned is that enduro bicycles have a much tougher life. Actually tougher than DH in which the runs are shorter, I’d say.

One of the components that suffer the most, and one that very often can ruin your race is the RD. Actually when we started using only one chainring the idea was to simplify the whole drivetrain so the RD could work in a simpler fashion.

SRAM got it right early here. Their X-Horizon RD, among other things, makes impossible ghost shifts due to the inertial forces on the cage and outermost knuckle, which was a common source of trouble which often ended with a RD wrapped around the cogs.

The new Shimano 12s derailleurs follow the same principle (no more slant parallelogram), but unfortunately are still proving to be weaker than SRAM. On top of that we got a batch which feels super stiff at the lever (XTR). Another problem is the new microspline thing (couldn’t they just use an XD body??), there are not so many rear hubs really available (catalogs are another thing).

The best bang for the buck is considered to be X01 lever, GX derailleur and X01 cassette ( to reduce unsprung mass ). Money can be saved on GX level cassette and smoother shifting comes at the cost of getting a XX1 lever.

Hope that helps.


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equal shimano has preferred a new freehub, why it can be made compatible with HG cassettes.........if you give an HG+ to HG adapter

[XCProMD]

I’m sorry but I don’t get what you mean.

I know the intricacies of the Microspline freehub and that there is an adaptor. I just wonder if we needed another cassette interface at all when there are two already available that’ll space up to 12 cogs and one of them has been around since 1996.

[robbosmans]

If you are are worried about durability i wouldnt go with 12 speed, just 11 speed with a larger casette


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[TheRich]

I’m sorry but I don’t get what you mean.

I know the intricacies of the Microspline freehub and that there is an adaptor. I just wonder if we needed another cassette interface at all when there are two already available that’ll space up to 12 cogs and one of them has been around since 1996.

Did people make this complaint when SRAM went 11-speed? If so, the answer is the same.