Syncros Silverton
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Are you running wheels with Berd spokes?
I've read from user reviews it's not that good. Flexible as a noodle.
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Mine aren’t any more or less laterally stiff than a traditional 3x wheel with DT Revs.cula_ru wrote:Are you running wheels with Berd spokes?
I've read from user reviews it's not that good. Flexible as a noodle.
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I find that hard to beleive..
Are there some tests out there? Real data and numbers.
Why?cula_ru wrote:I find that hard to beleive..
Are there some tests out there? Real data and numbers.
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Berd and Silverton wheels tested on video.
https://youtu.be/M0IbYoalIVY
https://youtu.be/M0IbYoalIVY
There are no Berd wheels in that video. Pi Rope, yes.cula_ru wrote:Berd and Silverton wheels tested on video.
https://youtu.be/M0IbYoalIVY
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Pi Rope, correct.
I need to buy this article, in very curious about the results.
In terms of reparability you are right, you can't repair the Silverton. But in terms of stiffness you can't beat carbon with textiles.
I need to buy this article, in very curious about the results.
In terms of reparability you are right, you can't repair the Silverton. But in terms of stiffness you can't beat carbon with textiles.
Sure. But how much stiffness is too much?cula_ru wrote:Pi Rope, correct.
I need to buy this article, in very curious about the results.
In terms of reparability you are right, you can't repair the Silverton. But in terms of stiffness you can't beat carbon with textiles.
Scott-SRAM haven’t won a race on those new wheels. Nino even went so far as to use a cheaper, less stiff wheel set in the Olympics.
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Tom Pidcock won the olympics on this wheels.
Pi Rope: Light AF and lowest stiffness of them all.
Probably the Pi Ropes handle damage better because they are the less siff, effectively absorbing the impacts as a spring.
Syncros: Stiff AF and fragile AF!
Yeah Pidcock wasn't afraid to crack the wheels, they hold on prety good on massive drops and rocks in the Olympics.Probably the Pi Ropes handle damage better because they are the less siff, effectively absorbing the impacts as a spring.
This is interesting too
So 3.2J in each step is the equivalent of droping 1kg from an height of 34cm or 0.5Kg from 76cm height or 300g from 1.94m...
6.4J means a drop of a weight of 1kg from a height of 70cm
9.6J means a drop of a weight of 1kg from a height of 1.09m
12.8J means a drop of a weight of 1kg from a height of 1.51m
This is approximated values but enough to get an idea of the impact.
(using 0.1 for air resistance)
We need to do some calcs to understand the 3.2joule impact...So 3.2J in each step is the equivalent of droping 1kg from an height of 34cm or 0.5Kg from 76cm height or 300g from 1.94m...
6.4J means a drop of a weight of 1kg from a height of 70cm
9.6J means a drop of a weight of 1kg from a height of 1.09m
12.8J means a drop of a weight of 1kg from a height of 1.51m
This is approximated values but enough to get an idea of the impact.
(using 0.1 for air resistance)
Last edited by cula_ru on Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:59 am, edited 2 times in total.
Pidcock used them at the Olympics, you might have missed it because he was out of sight off the front for most of the race He won on them at Nove Mesto too.LeDuke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 4:19 pmSure. But how much stiffness is too much?cula_ru wrote:Pi Rope, correct.
I need to buy this article, in very curious about the results.
In terms of reparability you are right, you can't repair the Silverton. But in terms of stiffness you can't beat carbon with textiles.
Scott-SRAM haven’t won a race on those new wheels. Nino even went so far as to use a cheaper, less stiff wheel set in the Olympics.
Anyway, with zero bike sponsor commitments he had free choice to use whatever he wanted.
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Buying the stiffest wheelset for your mtb is dumb, a to stiff wheelset will loose traction quicker than a less stiff wheelset. Downhill teams for example have different wheels with different spokes, spoke numbers and tensions for different courses.
For DH maybe it's good to have some absortion on the wheels for that kind of riding, massive jumps, massive rocks, massive landings. It's another level, not surprising.robbosmans wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:20 amBuying the stiffest wheelset for your mtb is dumb, a to stiff wheelset will loose traction quicker than a less stiff wheelset. Downhill teams for example have different wheels with different spokes, spoke numbers and tensions for different courses.
Does a XC racer need that? Or suspension and tire volume is enough?
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