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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:32 pm 
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Anyone already ridden these? I'm looking for a pair of aero aluminum clinchers (which are scarce nowadays) and I like the look of them... are the hubs any good?

link: http://www.bikesoul.com/s4.html

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:46 pm 
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I've heard good things but can't speak for myself.

Why aren't there more deep aluminum wheels? Do you have a weight for these?


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I ordered a pair and should have them in about 10 days. I have heard the claimed weight is about right. I will post a general comment on them when I get a first ride in.


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@ Stoli: Thanks :)
@ polar: dunno why there aren't more high profile alu wheels anymore... guess the trend is carbon now.. :?


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those are pretty sick. Does anyone know if the stickers come off?

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What rims are those?
Anyone knows where to get those rims in the US?


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Not so excited about the hubs, but at that price I would buy and slap on some DT 240s.

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A good review HERE!


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MaaseyRacer wrote:
Not so excited about the hubs, but at that price I would buy and slap on some DT 240s.


Care to elaborate ? :)

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I did a lot of searching for a high profile alu rim (40mm high) as I did not want to invest in carbon at my size (87kg and 190cm.) I came up with three options that are available on the market now.

-The Soul S4.0s
-Gipiemme 716 wheels
-Try to find an older set of the Campy alu deep dish wheels

The Campy option is hit or miss and they would all be pretty old at this point.

The Gipiemme rims are essentially a copy of the old Campy rim and are pretty heavy. Gipiemme offers a full wheelset with these rims that come in over 2,000gm.

The Souls come very close to their claimed weight (as seen in that linked review above) and were the only real option in my mind. Soul offers the rim separately as a replacement part only, as I understand. The branding is a sticker which should be removable. The hubs look good and should be fine. Dealing with Soul when purchasing was a nice experience. I hope the wheels arrive soon. :D


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racingtiger wrote:
Does anyone know if the stickers come off?

These are regular black painted/anodized alloy rims, I don't see what should prevent the stickers from coming off.


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would love a pair of the rims & get them built up on some nice hubs...

maybe on a pr of chris kings ?? :wink:

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Those sure look like KinLin rims - anybody care to confirm?

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I checked with Kinlin, and they do not make this rim.

Maybe it is made by Alex rims?


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Phill P wrote:
Maybe it is made by Alex rims?

Possible.

Alexrims was the first to introduce 7000 series alloy rims with their Crostini R3.1/R3.2 rims.
And these Soul rims are also made of 7000 series alloy. I haven't seen any other rim manufactures than Alex claim to use 7000 series alloy yet.
http://www.alexrims.com/product_detail. ... at=1&id=30
http://www.alexrims.com/pd_tech.asp?id=2
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7000 ALLOY
    * World"s first 7000 series aluminum rims.
    * Overall strength improvement to 50 kgf / mm2 thru exclusive heat treatment process.
    * High yield strength + extra rigidity = super lightweight + superior strength.


The KinLin Niobium rims are not a 7000 series alloy AFAIK, and they don't have wear indicators like the Soul rim has. So it could be made by Alexrims, which has wear indicators on many of their rims.
http://www.alexrims.com/pd_tech.asp?id=5
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INDICATOR
    * Our 0.3mm depth circumference line design appears on both sidewalls of the rim.
    * When the sidewall surface becomes parallel to the indicator line, it"s recommended that rider replaces the rim.
    * The new indicator line becomes Alex"s major design for rim safety and security.


http://www.bikesoul.com/s4.html
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# Rim: 7000 series Alloy. 41mm. Machined braking surface with wear indicator.


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