Bont shoes

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sungod
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by sungod

btw when i say the heat gun is set to 100c, that is measured just inside the nozzle, in use the gun is 2-3cm away from the shoe and moving around a bit, so the shoe temperature will be lower

to avoid stress on the material, heat a wider area than just the section you want to mould, and whether oven or heat gun, both need enough time for the full depth of the shoe to reach moulding temperature

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Boozzz
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by Boozzz

Looking at getting some Bonts as well. Currently ride Specialized S-Works Sub6 shoes, size 47. They seemed alright at the beginning, but they've turned out to be pretty unconfortable during and after longer rides. The back of the shoe is great, but they're too narrow at the front, especially around the outside of the ball of my foot, where my bone protrudes a bit. It also crushes the top of my big toe and second smallest toe somewhat. Have tried on lots of higher end shoes, but none have been great (Gaerne, Giro, Spiuk, Mavic, all too narrow, Diadora too wide at the back, Northwave just poor fitting overall). So now looking at a pair of Bonts. The fact they're shaped more like a foot, and they're heat moldable gives me hope.

Just wondering what to get, as nowhere around here they're being stocked. Bont's size calculator recommends a 46.5 wide for me. My left foot measures 288 x 114 mm, right is shorter at 278. However, my big toe really is pretty big and sits a bit further out, so have always needed size 47 in cycling shoes. The Vaypor S is a bit expensive for my taste, but the Riot+ does not come in a wide version. Could order some sizes in of course, but for the environment's sake I thought I'd ask here first :) Would you reckon I could get away with the Riot+ in 46,5? Or perhaps even the regular Vaypor S, since I can get that for a lot less than the wide version? How does Bont measure their width, where the foot contacts the sole, or a bit higher? Also wondering if the Riot+ would be a big step down in terms of stiffness compared to the S-Works? Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

vinuneuro
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by vinuneuro

Boozzz wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:31 pm
Looking at getting some Bonts as well. Currently ride Specialized S-Works Sub6 shoes, size 47. They seemed alright at the beginning, but they've turned out to be pretty unconfortable during and after longer rides. The back of the shoe is great, but they're too narrow at the front, especially around the outside of the ball of my foot, where my bone protrudes a bit. It also crushes the top of my big toe and second smallest toe somewhat. Have tried on lots of higher end shoes, but none have been great (Gaerne, Giro, Spiuk, Mavic, all too narrow, Diadora too wide at the back, Northwave just poor fitting overall). So now looking at a pair of Bonts. The fact they're shaped more like a foot, and they're heat moldable gives me hope.

Just wondering what to get, as nowhere around here they're being stocked. Bont's size calculator recommends a 46.5 wide for me. My left foot measures 288 x 114 mm, right is shorter at 278. However, my big toe really is pretty big and sits a bit further out, so have always needed size 47 in cycling shoes. The Vaypor S is a bit expensive for my taste, but the Riot+ does not come in a wide version. Could order some sizes in of course, but for the environment's sake I thought I'd ask here first :) Would you reckon I could get away with the Riot+ in 46,5? Or perhaps even the regular Vaypor S, since I can get that for a lot less than the wide version? How does Bont measure their width, where the foot contacts the sole, or a bit higher? Also wondering if the Riot+ would be a big step down in terms of stiffness compared to the S-Works? Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
Look at Lake and Shimano. Some reviews of the Bont Riot+ indicated they're a bit harsh due to the fiber-glass layer.
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sungod
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by sungod

^^^ i'd second this

i've got a couple of pairs of vaypor s, and a pair of riot+ i use for commute, the riot+ outer is far less supple, i'd also say it is slightly smaller even though both use the same size chart

rather than the wizard, use the size chart, be careful to measure exactly as shown, and try measuring at different times of day as foot size varies, once you have got the max size of your feet, add 5mm to the length measurement to allow for socks etc., maybe a bit more if you are right at the upper measurement for a size

with the vaypor s you can certainly add a few mm forefoot width by careful moulding, not sure that is possible with the riot+

Boozzz
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by Boozzz

Cheers guys. I reckon the Riot+ does not have a mouldable heelcup either right, while the Vaypor S does? I might take a gamble on the regular Vaypor S in 46,5.

Boozzz
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by Boozzz

Ordered both the Vaypor S and just to be sure the Riot+ as well. Riot+ didn't fit well, 46 too small, 47 upper really not form fitting. Vaypor S fits better (47), but slightly too narrow, can feel the edges of the sole below my foot, and gives me the same sort of squeezed/pressure feeling as my s-works. Doubt any heat molding will really remedy this.

So, S-Phyre wide maybe then, or indeed the Lakes.

sungod
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by sungod

Boozzz wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:17 pm
Ordered both the Vaypor S and just to be sure the Riot+ as well. Riot+ didn't fit well, 46 too small, 47 upper really not form fitting. Vaypor S fits better (47), but slightly too narrow, can feel the edges of the sole below my foot, and gives me the same sort of squeezed/pressure feeling as my s-works. Doubt any heat molding will really remedy this.

So, S-Phyre wide maybe then, or indeed the Lakes.
i've got vaypor s in normal and in wide, moulding normal to wider was ok though it took effort, but the wide version was fine out of the box, just needed to do the heel, if you can find someone stocking your size in wide it's worth a try

sun
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by sun

I recently picked up some Bont Helix in 42 wide. Out of the box, they feel okay, and I'm not sure I need to heat mold them. I'm coming from the S-Works 6 and the heel cup was a bit tighter. I have a flatish arch, but it doesn't seem to both me with the stock insoles. Are there any strategies to identifying your metatarsals so you can line up the pedal axle? There is carbon on both sides, so it's a bit diffiuclt to line up. Also, does anyone use any type of protectant spray (such as Scotchguard) so they stay clean?

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