richardtoddywoddy wrote:
Mads all the way.
He is the only person nominated who regularly contirbutes to all areas of this site (MTB, Road and Training - not sure about CX!) and that for me means that he is the only real candidate. Personally that the Bovine pulled out is a shame for me. Because he posts everywhere. This site isn't just for roadies, and I think that for all of the good that the other nominees do (and no discredit or disrespect is meant), it must be recognised that we constantly encourage a polemic view. For example that this vote is in the Road section and not the Weight Weenies section is almost laughable. I will admit that many people don't go in the Weight Weenies forum, but that isn't a reason to make everything of interest happen here, it will just exacerbates the problem.
Personally I think there are a lot more helpful people (as a percentage) and less garbage on the MTB section than appears on the road section. Anyone who has knowledge about just one discipline is useful but in no way should be the representative or ambassidor of this site.
Mods can we move this please?
This debate seems to come up repeatedly over last year.... It really boils down to what is WW? Each member has a different vision as to what the board should be about, and that creates diversity. No disrespect to Mad(as I was one of those that nominated him), but does posting in different sections of the board make someone more or less of a WW? Why not the person that built the lightest bike, or the one who tuned the most pieces.
The reason for more helpful people being in the MTB forum, is smaller membership creates a more tightly knit group. Each one knows the other and is more willing to help and be nice. As it grows that is going to slowly change.(that's a sad statement.)
And as for why this is in the road section. Well, I guess that would be my doing. Last year when I created the WWOTY contest(See how I took credit for your idea LJ.) it had to be posted somewhere. At that time, the announcement section was only used for basically reporting issues with the board so that didn't seem like the proper place. I talked it over with Frankie_B and LJ, and none of us had any solid ideas. It basically came down to it had to be in the Road, MTB or CX section. The road being most heavily visited was the obvious choice, so I made a judgement call:
madcow wrote:
Tippster wrote:
The thread title didnt say Road WW?
why is this a sticky in the road section?
More members would vote if this were a sticky in road, cyclo, training and mtb sections. Alternatively more this to the WW section
I put it here because I know this is where the most traffic is. But it's a good point. We now have it posted in MTB and CX sections...
I guess I set a precedent. However, last year there were more MTB riders in the final 10. Anders, Tippster, and Cyco, all of whom posted in the MTB forum, inversely nobody from the CX forum made it. However this year, we have just Mads as a regular from the MTB side, and we have Simon from the CX side. Anders did quite well in the running last year, 3rd most votes overall.
Anders wrote:
Thanks very much for the nomination. It's great to see there is nominees from all the forums. Even though my heart is sold on mountainbikes, I always check out the road forum when I'm here. Many WW tricks are shared by both road and mountainbikes, so we can all learn from each other. I hope to build a WW road bike when time and money allows it
The bulk of the posters on this site are roadies. They read and post in the road section, and because they are the dominant party, they will probably be the ones that elect the winner. However, look at it this way, by having only one regular MTB section poster, Mads chances of winning are increased. He has the possibility of drawing the vote of every regular in the MTB section, as simon does with the CX section. However, both of these guys are active in the road sections and may steal a few votes from the roadies as well.
we set the precedent again this year by telling C a s r a n that we weren't going to organize the contest, and as the current title holder he was responsible for it. We didn't layout any real rules, and left it up to him. Next years winner will have the same responsibility befall them, and if it's an MTB poster, then they will have the option to host the contest in that section as well. Or perhaps Simon will win and will host it in the CX section. It's a bit chaotic, but sometimes chaos is beautiful.
Now back to topic for me. I seriously don't know who to vote for. Everyone has some great attributes that make them worthy. And each one is better than another in different ways.
Going through the threads from last year, I found this. It got me questioning what makes WW of the year:
divve wrote:
Now that this thread is coming to a closing, I'd like to thank everyone for showing their support. I really think we got a nice group going on here and a good cross section of people from different fields of knowledge. I also hope that those which have been silent will make themselves heard more in the future. I know there's still a lot of untapped knowledge out there!
Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year to everyone
I think it's the level of the entire board that makes it hard to pick a single from the herd.
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I've also enjoyed seeing some of your stunning bike builds and hopefully I have built a few of my own. Notwithstanding this I also hope that I have been instrumental in helping just a few achieve their own dream of a weight weenie bike.
Great post, Jason! Many thanks for all your efforts, the spirit and class you bring in your posts. That is why you got all these nominations, and I think you would deserve the WWotY title as much as the ones in the current poll. Thanks again.
