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 Post subject: Gary Fisher Ziggurat
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:00 pm 
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Hello again
I will probably get a new Gary Fisher. Seeing that I was riding the most expensive and lightest frame in 1997, I will probably get a Ziggurat or Big Sur frame from GF. We'll see next week!
Does anyone here ride such a frame or has experience to share?
What about the genesis geometry?
The frame is made of ZR9000, on the internet you find a lot of information about it, but no info about the weight of the GF frame. Can anyone enlighten me a bit more?

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Fisher Ziggurat
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:06 pm 
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Dewillem wrote:
Hello again
I will probably get a new Gary Fisher. Seeing that I was riding the most expensive and lightest frame in 1997, I will probably get a Ziggurat or Big Sur frame from GF. We'll see next week!
Does anyone here ride such a frame or has experience to share?
What about the genesis geometry?
The frame is made of ZR9000, on the internet you find a lot of information about it, but no info about the weight of the GF frame. Can anyone enlighten me a bit more?

Thanks


ZR9000 is Trek's alu tubing. All I know is that they use it in all of the Trek companies high end Alu bikes, and also those of their daughter companies (GF, Klein, etc).

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I did not meant to start a new topic, it actually was a reply to one of my previous posts:

[/url]http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13709&highlight=[url]

Your information is most welcome.
Thank you


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:D i have had three fisher bikes and the genesis geometry is great , really cool mtn bikes i love them .


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As I said before, I love mine it is a great ride on open singletrack, when speed is of the essense


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Thanks for the info
But could either of you mention the weight of the frame?


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Update of these previous posts: http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13584&highlight=, http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13709&highlight=

Ok, meanwhile I got a warranty frame from GF. The LBS had a lot of work getting the warranty, as I am not the first owner. He succeeded and I got a really nice looking black frame. While building it up I noticed a problem though: it is a 29'er frame. For the aforementioned reason, the LBS is reluctant to send it back, so I will sell it, as I don't really see the advantages of a 29'er and I don't want to buy new rims, forks, ...

So, to get to my point. Through my regular LBS, I am interested in three frames at a reasonable price and from good quality.
1. Chaka mauna: http://www.chaka.de/shopart/G_Mauna.htm in alu 6061 (triple butted), weighing 1350 g for 360 €
2. Chaka makani: http://www.chaka.de/shopart/H_Makani.htm in scandium, weighing 1230 g for 515 €
(1 and 2 available in all RAL colours)
3. He also has one very nice and one-off frame. He bought a one from the welder of American Eagle. It is a hardtail with the flat plated carbon chainstays as the Lighning frame (http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4727&highlight=lightning). To be clear, it is not a fully nor is it a softtail. It's a black hardtail for about 450 €. Only drawback, it weighs 1700 g! I really do love this one, it looks great and is very original as it's a one-off design.

As a semi-WW, the weight is important to me, but in this case, the looks of this last frame are very tempting (weight penalty is 400 g). I'll probably buy no 3 and fit it with a Marzocchi Race, Ritchey WCS components, Tune hubs and skewers, Extralite brake levers and avid sl. So total weight will not be that much. But I'm interested in your opinion about the flat chainstays, which frame to buy and will I feel the weight difference?

Thank you and I'm very sorry for the long post
Willem[/list]


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For ease of the viewers, I mean this kind of chainstays:
http://www.castellanodesigns.com/fango.html[/img]
http://www.veltec.nl/Catalogus.aspx?tabindex=0&tabid=53&mid=348&productID=1375&CategoryID=305&ctl=ProductDetails

But, as mentioned before, the chainstays are in carbon and it's a hardtail.

Thanks for your information!!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:58 am 
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29"ers are really great.
You should make yourself a gift and decide to test ride yours before selling it.

If you speak french, go to my site
http://twentyniner.free.fr


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Yes, thank you I had already browsed through your site. I did search for some information about 29'ers, but I have made my mind up, it will be number three. I'll post pictures when it will be build up.


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