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 Post subject: Gumgardner's Crumpton
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:54 am 
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crumpton-Ultra- ... 4d0d73e406

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:05 am 
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Gum hasn't posted here for quite a while, pretty much disappearing shortly after his epic build was completed.
Given the location and details of the listing, and from my memory of his eBay listings before, that's him selling it.

EDIT: I guess I never saw this posting - viewtopic.php?f=5&t=114990&p=980822#p980822
Prior to his post on April 18 2013, his last post was in May of 2012.

Perhaps only he knows why he is selling it, however.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:42 am 
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He also offered his bike here in "FOR SALE" section some time ago.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:12 am 
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good thing its not in my size.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:33 am 
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Looks like Gum's dropped the price lately (image taken from "the Climb") http://www.the-climb.net/

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:35 am 
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oooops, image may not be hot linkable, dunno http://lh5.ggpht.com/-zwvyWvYa0oI/UY8qVkNXuqI/AAAAAAAAY6o/irLI1FZzDgY/s1600-h/Untitled-1%25255B2%25255D.jpg


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:27 pm 
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Guess he has gone back to his Ruegamer

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:54 pm 
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Gum's Crumpton is one the stand out WW bikes of all time. It seemed to be a genuinely hard riding product at a sub 4.5kg weight. Gum seemed to go through an astonishing journey to get there. Gum's journey captivated all of us.

With some WW builds they do seem to be about the bike and not the riding experience, an academic process rather than the desire to create the ultimate riding experience.

I would really love to know why Gum is selling this extraordinary bike. Gum are you out there?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:58 pm 
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thank-you I wills how this to my wife to demonstrate what used bikes cost.


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Found a new hobby to spend $$$ on.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:33 pm 
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The price just doesn't add up.

It's probably worth 50-60% of what the poor chap is asking.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:44 pm 
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How so?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:52 pm 
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Because a used bike is rarely ever worth what a user thinks it is worth. Started at $20k. No takes. $15k. We will see. But I think it will end up going for $10-12k if he is lucky.

The reason being WW market is small. Someone wanting a bike like this will probably want to build it themselves with just the parts they like (mechanical group, saddle, wheels, frame, colors, crank...etc.). rather than buy a bike already done. This isn't some Rembrandt that will appreciate over time.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:54 pm 
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Well he paid a lot less than $6K for the frame, the wheelset is $2K and if the rest adds up to $7K at retail ( I don't think it does but haven't "done the math") then hes asking full retail for a used product on Ebay. Makes no sense to me sorry.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:06 pm 
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Sad to see that baby up for adoption. In my experience 1/2 the average internet price for new parts is what will get things sold, especially for light weight parts where longevity is always a question. We consumers are a selfish bunch.


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