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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:43 pm 
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One thing I was thinking about/noticing- in the last two years a lot of guys that weren't winning before, weren't winning as often, or teams that had no chance in big events are now doing so. Maybe its because of less doping (or better doping by minor teams) I have no idea, but its really interesting to see.

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If I was a pro, just like any other pro does, I would never ever complain about my equipment (that i would get for free) and about the sponsor who is paying me.

If I was a pro, just like any other pro does, the bikes I would personally purchase, would be of decent brands, not the "crap" they pay me to ride. That is why Lance have a Crumptom, Evans has a Baum, and Wiggo uses Assos apparel for training (Evans too).

So yes, no pro would ever complain about Trek, Specialized or Canyon, or Pinarello. And yes, they know it's not the best, but hey, they pay you. And yes, it would make no diference in performance using a Crumpton or a Trek. And yes, in spite of this, Trek is shit. Why? Cause what it represents it's crap in my opinion. Their image, their ways, their innovations to market are nothing. It's in the opposite side or Cervelo, Klein, Cumptom, Parlee. Taht is why. Sorry to bring back this topic everyone is supposed to be aware of.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:59 pm 
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KWalker wrote:
One thing I was thinking about/noticing- in the last two years a lot of guys that weren't winning before, weren't winning as often, or teams that had no chance in big events are now doing so. Maybe its because of less doping (or better doping by minor teams) I have no idea, but its really interesting to see.


I agree there... Such a pity that Evans is now older and Sastre is retired... their palmares would be really different if they were 5 years younger.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:32 pm 
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I think both Cadel and Sastre would have a couple more tours each if you remove all the dopers in front of them. but that is just my opinion. Fantastic palamares, yes. Fair palmares, sure not.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:19 pm 
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Wiggo is on a mission to try something different in Catalunya. :shock:

Forced an attack on the downhill on Monday, and attacked in the last km of a 12k, 8% climb today, totally shredding the front group.

It was also super impressive that after Quintana, J-Rod and Piti took off in the last 500m, he managed to pull back 2 of them in the last few metres before the line.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:21 pm 
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Yeah, I noticed. Not exactly racing by numbers, and presumably working on going in the red.
I suddenly came to think of Marco Pantani...

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:45 am 
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Maybe he's been reading WW and was motivated to prove that damn 'prendrefeu' guy that he can attack instead of playing the part of a metronome. :lol:
But, I jest.

Good to see another side of him.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:49 am 
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Dwars must have been a tough race, pretty much 2/3 DNFed. Hope Jack Bauer recovers well too.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:50 am 
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Hope Jack Bauer recovers well too.


He always recovers, did you not watch 24? :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:43 pm 
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Funny. Fortunately, he's fine. Looked bad, though. @Liggero, change your avatar, my son keeps slapping my iPad... :roll:


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did he get a job as a cashier? lol

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Who makes the Kenda tubulars?

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Wow, that was horridly ugly....but surpringly effective....well done Dan Martin :beerchug:

The last 5km of that was like watching a dying man pedal squares into his grave.


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