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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:23 am 
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This guy on eBay has a 52cm System Six for sale. He claims the entire bike is full carbon. Did Cannondale ever make one in all-carbon....even by "mistake?" I call bullshit:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1076019700

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:27 am 
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No. All System Six's were carbon front have alloy rear.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:32 am 
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That looks like master324's old System.

The System Six is carbon/alu. That was the idea behind the frame.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:37 am 
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Here was the eBay Q/A discussion:

Dear jonathantong1994,
How did you make this carbon/aluminum frame all carbon? Is it really stiffer than Tarmac SL3 or Cervelo R3?

His response:

Dear zuffenhausen951,
This frame was always carbon, there is no aluminum in this frame other than the headset possibly. The only thing we did to this frame is sand down the original paint job and have it coated with matte black finish. Through personal experience I can say it is much more stiffer than the Tarmac, and the R3. I've owned the Tarmac and SystemSix at the same time and I feel pedal strokes much more when I am on the SystemSix.

Refer to the link for reviews on the bike and its performance.
http://www.roadbikereview.com/cat/lates ... 68crx.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- jonathantong1994

I am only asking because if it is indeed full carbon....I WANT IT!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:51 am 
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but the review he links to says the bike has an aluminum rear triangle.....


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:56 am 
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I don't think the seller really knows himself. He is obviously trying to get top-dollar for that bike....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:10 am 
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Zachariah wrote:
Here was the eBay Q/A discussion:

Dear jonathantong1994,
How did you make this carbon/aluminum frame all carbon? Is it really stiffer than Tarmac SL3 or Cervelo R3?

His response:

Dear zuffenhausen951,
This frame was always carbon, there is no aluminum in this frame other than the headset possibly. The only thing we did to this frame is sand down the original paint job and have it coated with matte black finish. Through personal experience I can say it is much more stiffer than the Tarmac, and the R3. I've owned the Tarmac and SystemSix at the same time and I feel pedal strokes much more when I am on the SystemSix.

Refer to the link for reviews on the bike and its performance.
http://www.roadbikereview.com/cat/lates ... 68crx.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- jonathantong1994

I am only asking because if it is indeed full carbon....I WANT IT!


It has an aluminum rear end. It's carbon from the middle of the top tube and the middle of the down tube forward. Everything else is basically a CAAD9. Benefit of the doubt, it's painted all black and he just doesn't know. I personally would have a tough time buying from a seller who doesn't know what he's selling. Worst case he knows and is hoping you're an idiot and will believe him.

Cannondale never made any full carbon system six bikes. Never.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:35 am 
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That's definitely master's old system. The guy master sold it to definitely doesn't have a clue what he has.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:51 am 
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skywalker268 wrote:
That's definitely master's old system. The guy master sold it to definitely doesn't have a clue what he has.


Exactly....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:06 am 
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Looks like a frame painted over with a spray can.

The middle pict gives some hint ....

Not something I would buy.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:21 am 
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Probably resprayed to obscure something. ? stolen


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:25 am 
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His listing has been changed to say the rear triangles are alloy, as you say he didn't know what he was selling. Ignorant seller imo.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:59 pm 
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The seller just thanked me for correcting him. If Cannondale even made an "experimental" full-carbon System Six...I would love to own it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:12 am 
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Oh wow, I am following this frame b/c i want a 52 System Six. I emailed him and asked him when it was painted and he said 2 or 3 years ago. I asked because these frames tend to corrode where the carbon meets the aluminum.
They are such great bikes. After all these years I still want one again.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:50 am 
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Those images look to be the original ones from the previous owner. I'd ask for current ones.


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