Opinions on New Build
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Hope I don't get flamed for this but here goes...looking to embark on a new uber WW project. Have been researching frames and so far have the following on my short list:
1. Storck 0.6
2. Cervelo R5 CA
3. Parlee Z1 (?)
Although this will be a WW build, I've decided to go electronic -- Campy SR EPS (I've heard that the internal battery option will be out soon -- don't ask me how soon though!).
Would appreciate feedback on the above frames (pros/cons), as well as any additional frame recommendations. Many thanks!
1. Storck 0.6
2. Cervelo R5 CA
3. Parlee Z1 (?)
Although this will be a WW build, I've decided to go electronic -- Campy SR EPS (I've heard that the internal battery option will be out soon -- don't ask me how soon though!).
Would appreciate feedback on the above frames (pros/cons), as well as any additional frame recommendations. Many thanks!
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Those are great frames, but if you're spending that kind of money, get exactly what you want; full custom. Parlee offers this, and the ability to get the *exact* size, geometry, and layup you want for your size, weight and style.
I don't know too much about Storck, but I think they ship stock sizes only, and I'm pretty sure the R5ca only comes in stock sizes. Stock sizes also mean stock layups and stock paint. On a $9,000 frame, you really should demand complete satisfaction and get your idea of a perfect bike, not a generalized setup that works for most.
While the Storck and Cervelo are fixed in stone from the factory, the Parlee will be whatever you want- stable fondo bike, a crit racer, or a climbing special. And you'll be able to meet the builders, get fitted, explain your exact vision for the bike, and end up with a bike that's uniquely your vision and your baby. The relationship with the builder and the added value of their ideas is a great bonus.
Tell us how it goes.
-Tim
I don't know too much about Storck, but I think they ship stock sizes only, and I'm pretty sure the R5ca only comes in stock sizes. Stock sizes also mean stock layups and stock paint. On a $9,000 frame, you really should demand complete satisfaction and get your idea of a perfect bike, not a generalized setup that works for most.
While the Storck and Cervelo are fixed in stone from the factory, the Parlee will be whatever you want- stable fondo bike, a crit racer, or a climbing special. And you'll be able to meet the builders, get fitted, explain your exact vision for the bike, and end up with a bike that's uniquely your vision and your baby. The relationship with the builder and the added value of their ideas is a great bonus.
Tell us how it goes.
-Tim
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what about the new guru photon?
crumpton?
etc.
i definitely agree you should go custom since money doesnt seem to be a limiting factor
crumpton?
etc.
i definitely agree you should go custom since money doesnt seem to be a limiting factor
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SpinnerTim wrote:Those are great frames, but if you're spending that kind of money, get exactly what you want; full custom. Parlee offers this, and the ability to get the *exact* size, geometry, and layup you want for your size, weight and style.
I don't know too much about Storck, but I think they ship stock sizes only, and I'm pretty sure the R5ca only comes in stock sizes. Stock sizes also mean stock layups and stock paint. On a $9,000 frame, you really should demand complete satisfaction and get your idea of a perfect bike, not a generalized setup that works for most.
While the Storck and Cervelo are fixed in stone from the factory, the Parlee will be whatever you want- stable fondo bike, a crit racer, or a climbing special. And you'll be able to meet the builders, get fitted, explain your exact vision for the bike, and end up with a bike that's uniquely your vision and your baby. The relationship with the builder and the added value of their ideas is a great bonus.
Tell us how it goes.
-Tim
Thanks, Tim -- great feedback. Never thought about the full custom aspect but definitely makes sense. Yes, Storck only offers stock sizes (47, 51, 54 and 57).
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coppercook62 wrote:Id look at the Parlee Zero as wel
Will do. The disk brake option on the Zero is interesting -- just concerned about the weight penalty.
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wpccrunner wrote:what about the new guru photon?
crumpton?
etc.
i definitely agree you should go custom since money doesnt seem to be a limiting factor
Thanks -- will look into these as well.
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mnmasotto wrote:IMHO, the A2J Rolo and the Crumptom SL are your two top choices. Both are uberlight and custom. Both can be designed to weight in at less than 700 lbs.
Thanks!
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For a true WW build:
I would reccomend the
-Parlee Z0 (you don't have to get disc brakes and it is much lighter than the Z1)
-Crumpton (he cam make a frame great and superlight as well)
Nothing wrong with the Cervelo or Storck though.
-Stork 0.6,
I love this bike but the fact that many have had to trim their brake pads to fit wider rims, bothers me. (I don't want have to shave my pads down 1/3-1/2 to get my favorite rims to work. Maybe they will modify the design and it will work better)
The Z1 is a great bike, but not "that" light. (It's not heavy either)
I would reccomend the
-Parlee Z0 (you don't have to get disc brakes and it is much lighter than the Z1)
-Crumpton (he cam make a frame great and superlight as well)
Nothing wrong with the Cervelo or Storck though.
-Stork 0.6,
I love this bike but the fact that many have had to trim their brake pads to fit wider rims, bothers me. (I don't want have to shave my pads down 1/3-1/2 to get my favorite rims to work. Maybe they will modify the design and it will work better)
The Z1 is a great bike, but not "that" light. (It's not heavy either)
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carbon2329 wrote:For a true WW build:
I would reccomend the
-Parlee Z0 (you don't have to get disc brakes and it is much lighter than the Z1)
-Crumpton (he cam make a frame great and superlight as well)
Nothing wrong with the Cervelo or Storck though.
-Stork 0.6,
I love this bike but the fact that many have had to trim their brake pads to fit wider rims, bothers me. (I don't want have to shave my pads down 1/3-1/2 to get my favorite rims to work. Maybe they will modify the design and it will work better)
The Z1 is a great bike, but not "that" light. (It's not heavy either)
So the weight penalty on the Z-Zero Disk is about 250 grams, right? If you offset caliper weight (about 160 grams for THM, w/o pads), that would bring down the delta to under 100 grams. Seems too good to be true.
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I don't know if I understand?
The Z0 weight is estimated to be about 850 gm for a 56-ish ( +/-), with out disc brakes. So it's not a TOTAL LIGHT WEIGHT, but great for custom.
*(it's not 850gm with disc attachmets etc...)
Did I mis-interperete, if so just ignore me
If you want a TOTAL WW BUILD then a Crumpton superlight is the way to go. It will be custom and just about lighter than anything else (stock or custom).
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I think I just realized what you said.
I believe it is....to good to be true.
The Z0 weight is estimated to be about 850 gm for a 56-ish ( +/-), with out disc brakes. So it's not a TOTAL LIGHT WEIGHT, but great for custom.
*(it's not 850gm with disc attachmets etc...)
Did I mis-interperete, if so just ignore me
If you want a TOTAL WW BUILD then a Crumpton superlight is the way to go. It will be custom and just about lighter than anything else (stock or custom).
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I think I just realized what you said.
I believe it is....to good to be true.
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carbon2329 wrote:I don't know if I understand?
The Z0 weight is estimated to be about 850 gm for a 56-ish ( +/-), with out disc brakes. So it's not a TOTAL LIGHT WEIGHT, but great for custom.
*(it's not 850gm with disc attachmets etc...)
Did I mis-interperete, if so just ignore me
If you want a TOTAL WW BUILD then a Crumpton superlight is the way to go. It will be custom and just about lighter than anything else (stock or custom).
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I think I just realized what you said.
I believe it is....to good to be true.
Sorry I was unclear -- I was referring to the incremental increase in weight for the disk brake option to be about 250 grams versus standard caliper/rim brakes.