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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:59 pm 
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Hey can anyone comment on the fit of the vaypors vs the A2 or A3 shoes? Im looking to get some vaypors and am currently wearing a 42.5 in the A2's. Basically im wondering if the sizing and fit is roughly the same where it would be safe to get the same size.

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I do not have any information, but these shoes are looking so cool and nice. I want to buy a similar pair. Where can i buy it?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:56 am 
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Depends on which ones specifically you want. Ebay is a pretty good resource.


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:34 pm 
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Just got a pair of these in the mail yesterday!
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Went down to a 42 from the 42.5 I had previously been wearing in the A2's, fit on the 42.5's was a bit more spacey than I would like. So far so good, using Giro SuperNatural Fit Kit insoles and 1 round of molding has resulted in a pretty awesome slipper like fit, sock tight almost with the carbon encasing my foot.

Found them on closeout in my size for ~$150ish, pretty light as well :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:10 am 
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Hmmm... Not much choice in bike brand now, SS. :smartass: :mrgreen:

Very nice shoes, the Vaypors. Only slight difficulty I've had with mine was to find the correct cleat position as it is impossible to feel the toe joints through the carbon "bathtub".

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:23 pm 
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I'm having problems removing the cleat screws from my A1s. With first one and now two shoes the receiving bolts in the shoe are loose, so I can rotate the screw on the cleat side, but can't get grip on the sole side. As a result, the cleat is held by only the two good screws.

Additionally I've had difficulty getting a pressure point in my arch to yield. I'm trying again today. I think I need to really let the shoe heat for at least 30 minutes to allow the part to become soft. Ovens aren't well regulated at 60C, and accurate temperature is hard to attain there.

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:49 pm 
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Kjetil wrote:
Hmmm... Not much choice in bike brand now, SS. :smartass: :mrgreen:

Very nice shoes, the Vaypors. Only slight difficulty I've had with mine was to find the correct cleat position as it is impossible to feel the toe joints through the carbon "bathtub".


I'm riding a Specialized actually :oops: I'm a borderline broke and dumb college kid so right now frugality wins out over the need to match.

If I had the extra $$ I would have gone for the Vaypor's but saving >$100 by going with the ctt-1's just was too good to pass up. Depending on how much I like em I will definitely be saving for some vaypor's in the *distant* future.

Anyhow, I have found it hard to set up the cleat position as well. Previously on my A2's that I got used this was a real challenge for me because of how stiff the whole shoe is. I found just riding the trainer and tinkering with it to be the best because I couldn't get a good read on my metatarsals.

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
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The Cervelo logos peel off pretty easily, at least on the white version of the CTT-1s.

DJ, I had a similar problem with the T-nuts on my Bonts, and a few others in this thread have as well. The problem was that the T-nut was not threaded all the way through so the bolt will hit the non-threaded sections and just spin the t-nut around. I picked up some new ones at Home Depot, but they aren't a direct fit. I had to dremel down the outer diameter of the part which passes through the sole of the shoe. You could also enlarge the hole in the sole, or but T-nuts directly from Bont. I was happy to modify the Home Depot T-nuts since they were cheap and available immediately. I have a few thousand miles on this solution with no problems. And now I noticed you are having trouble getting the bolts out rather than in, so this is likely a solution to a different problem...


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:26 am 
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Note to self: Must read up on the difference between CTT-1 and Vaypor.

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
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Good to hear the logo's will peel off if I want to. The word cervelo on the straps isn't bad but the "wings" on the back might have to go, we shall see after a bit of riding. I can say right now they fit AMAZING however. Heated them up, put them on with Giro Superfeet Insoles and cranked them down as hard as I could. 20minutes later they are like socks, also the weight difference is VERY noticeable over my A2's

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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
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Anyone try the T1 Track ones on? Are they the A1 shape I guess? I find that w/ my skinny foot, there's too muh room over the top of my foot, wonder if the laces will help that.


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
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I've got a pair of CTT-1s, and I'm trying to push out the arch support a bit. I have relatively flat feet and the "arch support" is putting painful pressure on my arch but I can't seem to push it out... I've baked it at 200deg for 20 min and no luck. Any ideas or tips? The rest of the tub molds fine but I'm not having so much success with the arch support.


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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
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Kjetil wrote:
Note to self: Must read up on the difference between CTT-1 and Vaypor.

Potentially helpful post:
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 Post subject: Re: Bont shoes
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:51 am 
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Thanks.

Must say this shoe purchase (Vaypors) is turning out to be the same kind of homecoming as my discovery of Selle SMP. Bliss!

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I had the same problem with the CTT 1- and I have REALLY flat feet. What I did was heat one shoe at a time, put it on, and then stand on (put more pressure on) the arch of the foot in the shoe with the heel of my other foot until the shoe cooled, then did the same with the other side. Worked like a champ.


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