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 Post subject: 2013 NAHBS
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:18 pm 
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Great interview of Don Walker, founder of the show, on VeloNews.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 NAHBS
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But he says weight weenies are missing the point:

"What are they missing? I think they’re missing the point. Let me explain. They keep on thinking that lighter equals better. And that’s not always the case. A light bike can ride like shit. As Roland Della Santa says, somebody asks how much one of your bikes weighs. And he says, “well, what are you going to do? Are you going to weigh it or are you going to ride it?” So many people are just missing the point."

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 NAHBS
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Hmmm, same philosophy that Colnago goes by.

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fa63 wrote:
“well, what are you going to do? Are you going to weigh it or are you going to ride it?”

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Both, obviously. :noidea:

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 NAHBS
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English's time trial bike, photo from James Huang (Bike Radar/CyclingNews):

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 NAHBS
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At 62, I certainly came from the steel-is-real camp. But once I was fitted on a quality carbon bike (SL3 Tarmac in my case), I'll never go back to steel. The utter composure when descending in the 50+ mph range is something that continues to elude every steel bike I've ridden. And people can argue till the cows come home about any performance disadvantage of BB flex, but I hate it and will never again own a bike that exhibits it. A steel bike no doubt can be built for my set of preferences, but why do it when I can have a bike fulfilling all my preferences in a much lighter weight package.


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The latest English TT bike is stunning. I wonder if those narrow profile tubes are possible with carbon fibre... ultimate WW TT bike anyone? :twisted:

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A lot of those handbuilt steel bikes LOOK incredible but I don't believe the whole steel is real thing. I haven't ridden any uber expensive high end steel frames but I have ridden some decent stuff. My steel and cross bikes didn't ride any better than my scandium frames and were noticeably heavier. There's no way I'd ride a frame that weighs two pounds more than something similar but made from another material.


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I disagree. Handbuilt always stays in the estimation longer than molds. My steel isn't heavy, should see me out of cycling,and is a do everything go anywhere bike as well. Modern steels do not betray flex, and ride superbly. But I'm not 20, and me hero's rode steel as well.

I don't want the neurosis of bashing a carbon frame against the steel bike rack at the local supermarket, or coming off at speed around an icy/greasy corner. My steel descends a mountain pass like an afternoon nap as well. Mind you I like the Infinto, with it's kevlar and nanotech reinforcements, and I've put a lot of carbon on my steel which keeps the weight down.


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My Ritchey Breakaway rides fine. When I ride my Fuji, I like the Fuji, but when I go back to the Ritchey, I also like the Ritchey. If the Ritchey were custom built matched to my weight and position it could only get better.

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That english TT is amazing!! Looks like a steel bmc headtube area. English is a true craftsman!!


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 Post subject: Re: 2013 NAHBS
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Crumpton ultralight.

Super-impressive work by Nick, a WW regular.

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Too bad it has Shimano, though.

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This new Crumpton frame looks sweet.


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The english tt bike is amazing.


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