Will Armstrong confess??

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Not that pleasant an outlook for the guy facing battling huge lawsuits year after year. Presumably he doesn't have the cash to settle with all parties out of court?

I wonder what his mental state must be like. It's only going to get worse for him as he's reviled everywhere he goes (other than the dope hero worshipers, who must be a great crowd to associate with)
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One thing for sure he'll be flying business class soon. If things are worse then coach LOL
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The basis of Armstrong's SCA Promotions case defense?
http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-currents/2013/02/07/armstrong-is-sued-over-prize-money/ wrote:A spokesman for Armstrong said SCA had already settled its dispute with Armstrong in 2006, agreeing to pay $7.5 million and signing an agreement with Armstrong and Tailwind Sports Inc., the company that managed his former team. The spokesman provided The Wall Street Journal with a copy of the 2006 agreement, which says “no party may challenge, appeal or attempt to set aside the arbitration award.”

Can untruthful (fraudulent, perjurious, lying, whatever you want to call it) testimony negate such an agreement?

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HammerTime2 wrote:First he is stripped of 7 TdF titles.

Now the question is, should Armstrong be stripped of his more than 150 Strava KOMs?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-05/armstrong-maintains-strava-presence-as-cyclists-seek-online-ban.html

Here is an update. I don't know who was responsible for the disappearance.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-07/our-bodies-our-spreadsheets-fitness-quants-on-rampage.html wrote:Lance Armstrong, the world’s most prominent confessed doping cheat, competed on closely held Strava Inc.’s website until yesterday, based on recent updates to his Strava profile. He held more than 150 running-course records and King of the Mountain cycling rankings (known as KOMs) before they disappeared from his Strava page yesterday.

San Francisco-based Strava, which advertised on broadcasts of last year’s Tour de France, treats Armstrong as “just another member of the community,” says Chief Executive Officer Michael Horvath. Some Strava competitors urged banning Armstrong because of his doping.

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HammerTime2 wrote:
HammerTime2 wrote:First he is stripped of 7 TdF titles.

Now the question is, should Armstrong be stripped of his more than 150 Strava KOMs?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-05/armstrong-maintains-strava-presence-as-cyclists-seek-online-ban.html

Here is an update. I don't know who was responsible for the disappearance.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-07/our-bodies-our-spreadsheets-fitness-quants-on-rampage.html wrote:Lance Armstrong, the world’s most prominent confessed doping cheat, competed on closely held Strava Inc.’s website until yesterday, based on recent updates to his Strava profile. He held more than 150 running-course records and King of the Mountain cycling rankings (known as KOMs) before they disappeared from his Strava page yesterday.

San Francisco-based Strava, which advertised on broadcasts of last year’s Tour de France, treats Armstrong as “just another member of the community,” says Chief Executive Officer Michael Horvath. Some Strava competitors urged banning Armstrong because of his doping.



Good golly! Lance is not ridin' ... just hidin' :wink:
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Well said @vaughters http://bit.ly/Y1fpLO
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So here's what I take away from the Vaughters article http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/jonathan-vaughters/opinion-its-not-all-about-lance-armstrong-and-heres-how-we-can-fight-doping. Lance's heart was in the right place when he donated the money to UCI to fund anti-doping, even if that anti-doping effort might perhaps have been better carried out by a body independent of cycling. No wonder Lance agrees with the article.

Of course I am being sarcastic in this post.

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Yes ...
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HammerTime2 wrote:The basis of Armstrong's SCA Promotions case defense?
http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-currents/2013/02/07/armstrong-is-sued-over-prize-money/ wrote:A spokesman for Armstrong said SCA had already settled its dispute with Armstrong in 2006, agreeing to pay $7.5 million and signing an agreement with Armstrong and Tailwind Sports Inc., the company that managed his former team. The spokesman provided The Wall Street Journal with a copy of the 2006 agreement, which says “no party may challenge, appeal or attempt to set aside the arbitration award.”

Can untruthful (fraudulent, perjurious, lying, whatever you want to call it) testimony negate such an agreement?


Absolutely. It's called fraudulent inducement. Defrauding someone to enter into an agreement, knowing the premises are false.

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What's fascinating is that he really WASN'T the best doper ever. If he was, he would have made better efforts at keeping all this under wraps. He assumed too much. Even the best warriors sometimes underestimate their adversaries.

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UpFromOne wrote:What's fascinating is that he really WASN'T the best doper ever. If he was, he would have made better efforts at keeping all this under wraps. He assumed too much. Even the best warriors sometimes underestimate their adversaries.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-HVzkBTzA0

David Walsh on that subject.

Halfway through this it really hits your point. Really funny analogy at the end too.

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Here's a funny take on Oprah's thing:
http://thegoat.backcountry.com/2013/02/ ... and-oprah/

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...and Armstrong decides not to cooperate with the USADA-

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstro ... with-usada
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http://berzin.blogspot.com/

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Lock him up with J.J. Jr.

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there's a nice federal penitentiary east of austin. it'd have that "down home" feel to it.

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