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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:58 am 
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^ And in historic news... Frank S. A really rare guy. But a prominent athlete wouldn't be *that* obvious about criminal activities, would he?
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/f ... ent-18842/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


And considering that even though it was found out he still got away with it, what motivation do they have to be overly careful?


It's probably fair to point out that pro cyclists are famous for what their bodies can do, not their brains. Sometimes fans can put athletes on a pedestal of all around awesomeness, but apart from physical prowess they're just normal young guys, some are clever, some are dumb, some are even Ricardo Ricco. Add to that they spend a lot of time in a very insulated environment and an above average level of naivety is probably to be expected.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:38 am 
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Frank should have claimed it was a donation, not a payment.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:20 am 
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Why can't the judge overseeing this make a stand and just say "cheating is cheating no matter who you are, publish every name" Or give the names to WADA and let them deal with it on a global level. It just seems like they are protecting cheats for no reason.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:55 am 
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Other sports federations are probably happy about the focus on cycling when it comes to doping.Cycling takes the heat everytime!.Football,athletics,cross country skiing etc....I bet cycling is cleaner than those sports.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:22 am 
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/photos/ ... ute/252135" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

can someone pretty please tell Vansummeren they invented helmets for cycling?!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:44 am 
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Its training he can wear what he wants as long as its cycling specific. Looks like he wanted something warmer than a skullcal

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:25 pm 
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John Degenkolb's Felt.

Didn't know that "Oxeon" (a Swedish company) were involved in the bike business.
You might recognize the pattern from the Bauer icehockey sticks :smartass:


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Are those Shimano-branded HED rims?

That pattern looks very similar to the one on the new Campagnolo/Fulcrum rear disc wheel.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:08 pm 
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Are those Shimano-branded HED rims?

That pattern looks very similar to the one on the new Campagnolo/Fulcrum rear disc wheel.


Looks like Dura Ace hubs.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:47 pm 
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wow, what a great timing

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/rem ... -his-death

so he was a 'talented rider', 'best climber', a winner. i've really no words to comment on this exquisite piece of journalism :thumbup:

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keeping the hipocrisy alive...

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There should be a monument to Pantani ... at One Amgen Center Drive, Thousand Oaks, CA, USA - Amgen's corporate headquarters. He was one of their best customers.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:14 pm 
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Why can't the judge overseeing this make a stand and just say "cheating is cheating no matter who you are, publish every name" Or give the names to WADA and let them deal with it on a global level. It just seems like they are protecting cheats for no reason.

IANAL but presumably there are pretty clear guidelines regarding the handling of evidence, that a judge is required to follow. People not indicted with the particular case typically have a right to have their identities protected, and this right needs to be weighted against other factors such as public interest etc. It's still a legal case in a proper court, so due process needs to be followed.

Seems in reality though, those names leak to the press more often than not anyway ...

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Doping or not he made racing more exciting than people bitching on a message board about doping.

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