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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:07 pm 
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Me and my team of fellow cyclists are taking bicycle protection against thieves to a new level and right now we are developing a new product – bicycle alarm combined with a cable (chain) and rear lights.

We have a great team of engineers with experience in electronics, mechanics and manufacturing. Our team has some great ideas, but we believe that the best products can only be created together with other cyclists.

It would be great if you could share your experience dealing with bike thieves and thoughts or suggestions on product which we are developing.

You can answer here or check our web page – http://www.bikewatch.eu/, where you can see design sketches, blog and contact us directly.

Also follow us on twitter and facebook. We will post updates and answer questions there.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:55 pm 
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Be interested in watching this.

I'm an electronic security engineer for one of the worlds largest security companines so I'm used to building security systems.Be great to see how you guys get on,it's definitely in need on the market right now.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:54 pm 
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I've been thinking of building a locking system built into a helmet. When the group stops for a break somewhere I usually put the straps around one of the wheels and frame or if available around some secure post. By no means safe but if someone wants to quickly ride away and there are 10 bikes around, most likely won't be mine.

I've been thinking if some tough thin flexible metal cables could be woven into the straps it wouldn't add much weight. A simple 3 or 4 button system, made from tough plastic or lightweight metal could be built into the clasp that had to be pressed in sequence to be unlocked. While it could be defeated relatively easily with a decent cutting device it would offer security if someone wanted to make a quick "pit stop" in a restaurant or the bike was left for a short time in a relatively visible area.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:08 am 
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What would that buy you like 5 seconds? :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:18 am 
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Do I need to bring a separate lock for the wheels? Looks like I can make off with the wheels.
How tough is the cable? Can I snip it in 10 seconds or less?
How heavy is this device I need to lug around with my bike?
Where do the cables go after I remove them?
What happens when it rains? Is it waterproof?
So many unanswered questions on that website.

My current opinion is that this device is not effective enough right now. A redesign might be needed.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:38 pm 
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stella-azzurra wrote:
What would that buy you like 5 seconds? :lol:

If I went to the same rest stop, on the same day at the same time every week, then someone with something as simple as a sheet metal sheers could plan to steal the bike. For that matter just about any heavy duty bike security device can be defeated. Some of them weigh in the multi pound range. I was just thinking of something that would add just a few ounces that would make a bike secure for anyone that was trying to seize an opportunity that would quickly look around to see if anyone was watching and simply be able to carry or ride a bike away.

We are weight weenies. So the choices are nothing at one end or a multi pound lock being lugged up hills that offer fairly reasonable security. I am trying to come up with an idea much closer to the nothing end weight wise that offer some form of security.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:01 pm 
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I would be impressed if some was able to do that. Bottom line take a cheap bike you don't mind losing while at the coffee shop or running errands because if they want your bike they will take it quickly and efficiently.
A good lock will slow or deter them from taking your bike.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:21 pm 
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geraldatwork wrote:
stella-azzurra wrote:
What would that buy you like 5 seconds? :lol:

If I went to the same rest stop, on the same day at the same time every week...


You could just keep a fairly decent lock left on the bike-rack, since you're going there so often. A key or combination doesn't weigh as much.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:15 am 
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Those locks get clipped. Pet peeve moment: I hate locks left on a bike rack.
Out here in the North East they end up seizing with rust.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:20 am 
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Southern California, they don't get clipped, and aren't too prone to rust. If it gets clipped? Get another one.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:41 am 
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Bike locks are for commuter bikes and grocery getter. Just my view.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:55 am 
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Yeah, which is why you put a lock on the rack so you have a something to lock your expensive roadie bike to while you're getting some coffee/whatever from the café post- or pre- ride. It works. This isn't rocket science: it works. I've been doing this for more than a decade now, even on bikes that cost more than a rack does (and yes, I know what city-grade racks and bike corals cost, it's part of what my non-profit advocates for among many things)

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Oh it does work, right up to the time they steal your expensive bike. Kinda funny when you're running after someone with your cycling shoes. :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:31 am 
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Met this gentleman (and his gorgeous wife) at Interbike who invented chips to be imbedded in bikes (presumably to be done during the carbon layup process) that can be tracked down if stolen, very much like the way you could track down a cell phone. I know this is not a lock but interesting nevertheless.

http://www.chipabike.com/

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I approve :thumbup:

The web page can use a little more effort jeez!

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