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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:41 am 
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Velofreak wrote:
I wonder which one is next. Having said this, every time I see a Trek owner I identify him/her with a person who has absolutely no knowledge of cycling industry, otherwise they wouldn't buy them.


What a brilliant statement. Obviously women who have only been cycling for three years buy Treks.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:59 am 
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List of bike brands destroyed by Trek:
- Klein.
- Gary Fisher.
- Lemond.


so true...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:06 pm 
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just as Renault killed Nissan. they bought it, it's their right to do whatever they please with it. of course it's a shame with regard to the recent history of bike industry, but businness doesn't really add extra points for deserts and place in someone's heart, especially if wallets won't follow. so trek is either poor with managing other brands or it was a deliberate strategy. most folks don't know or care about behind the corpo courtain stuff, and choose the best product availible. that's why we buy Nike or Adidas even though the information about kids working in their facilities were 'common knowledge', and it's actually serious compared to Greg vs. Trek quarrel

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:05 pm 
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they need to bring back these paint jobs


Agree strange there has been less retro paint jobs. The car industry has done well with retro. They would be a good alternative to all the mat black.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:11 pm 
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Seems that the color brown in back in style for cars.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:46 pm 
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More brown bikes would be good yes.

I can see Trek dropping the Madone designation in the not too distant future as they distance themselves from their cheating sparrow.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:55 pm 
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Trek Madone - a bike that's won 10... wait..3...errrm... that was ridden in grand tours :thumbup:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:09 pm 
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Velofreak wrote:
List of bike brands destroyed by Trek:

- Klein.
- Gary Fisher.
- Lemond.

I wonder which one is next. Having said this, every time I see a Trek owner I identify him/her with a person who has absolutely no knowledge of cycling industry, otherwise they wouldn't buy them.

I know a lot about the industry and worked in it and would gladly own a Trek. The only thing that made me order my SS Evo over a Madone was the price, but I'd rather ride the Madone.

I know about what Trek has done and don't care. Buy-out and eradication happens all the time in tons of industries. My morals don't influence my bike purchases because, lets face it, it won't make an impact on anyone's sales. If and when I ever started my own company I could apply a different ethos, but until then I want to buy what works well, looks nice, rides nice, and fits in my budget. Most people do as well.

I used to see Lemond bikes in the shop all the time and used on Craigslist quite often. Lots of people still own and love their Lemonds and its a more well-known brand than many others that are still in production. I could see it doing quite well.

I still think Lemond is one of the only clean cyclists of his generation. There were some very unique circumstances that precipitated his win and he experimented a lot in terms of positioning, aerodynamics, periodization, and altitude training.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:17 pm 
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I don't dismiss the importance of ethics in buy decisions but I don't see what Trek did as unethical. Buy-outs happen all the time, brands are retired due to duplication, etc. Cannondale was bought out by a big conglomerate, Specialized is chasing competitor product out of shops, etc.

If that's not your thing then get a Crumpton or Parlee.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:42 pm 
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Velofreak wrote:
List of bike brands destroyed by Trek:

- Klein.
- Gary Fisher.
- Lemond.



You forgot Bontrager.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:11 pm 
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I don't blame Trek for killing those brands either. Trek had the magic formula so to speak in the Lance era, but then look across at the success Specialized have had since then and you start to realise why orientating resources behind one brand might make sense.

I personally like high-end Treks but the geo doesn't work for me and they are overpriced IMO compared to say Canyons


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jmh wrote:
Velofreak wrote:
List of bike brands destroyed by Trek:
- Klein.
- Gary Fisher.
- Lemond.

You forgot Bontrager.


Bontrager still exists and makes good stuff.
BTW a modern reincarnation of the classic KLEIN hardtails (adroit, attitude etc.) would be a huge success from a marketing point of view.

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Loved the paint jobs on the Kleins.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:17 pm 
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tymon_tm wrote:
yep, there hasn't been. just like not that long ago (a year? few months?) no one would even doubt the integrity of 'past champs' (like Merckx, Indurain, Fignon etc).
:lol: you not been doing this cycling stuff long then?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:21 pm 
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kgt wrote:
jmh wrote:
Velofreak wrote:
List of bike brands destroyed by Trek:
- Klein.
- Gary Fisher.
- Lemond.

You forgot Bontrager.


Bontrager still exists and makes good stuff.
BTW a modern reincarnation of the classic KLEIN hardtails (adroit, attitude etc.) would be a huge success in a marketing point of view.

Only as a name that Trek puts on their Far East produced accessories. SFA to do with Bontrager bar Keith getting his cheque each month, despite what the blurb on their website says about design.


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