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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:54 pm 
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I'm thinking of getting a carbon/titanium frame, the one that stands out at the moment is a Passoni Xxti.
The problem with that is the price.. :shock:
I'm also interested in the Dean and Holland Exogrid frames... (Ritte also do one!!)
What I like about the Passoni is the ISP.
Can anyone point me in a similar direction that won't brake the bank!!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:11 pm 
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The Passoni frames are rather nice. The Legend Queen Ti has a carbon seatube ISP thing. Not sure about pricing:
http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/10/b ... ch-legend/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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When I was looking at my Enigma here in the UK they had something with a carbon ISP. This ones steel but I'm sure I saw saw a Ti one once...
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I've seen secondhand Titus carbon/ti road frames go for bargain on eBay: Solera, Ligero or Vuelo. No ISP but were fabricated with Exogrid.

Depending on your budget anything is possible - call up a framebuilder and ask...


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:27 am 
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I train on a Merlin Solis, which has carbon seatstays. Great bike, but I'd go all TI - the carbon mix doesn't really add anything. I have to admit that Passioni do have that a certain allure though.....

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:28 am 
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German KOCMO had a CF/Ti bike called Blackline, but it's gone from the website in 2013. Maybe you can still get one somewhere. Think it was around €2000 or so.

Edit: seems the page is still there, just not linked from the products list.

http://www.kocmo.de/en/products/?visit= ... &id=100026

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:37 pm 
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The Legend Queen is a thing of beauty!!!
I'll mail them and see about pricing..


Thanks for the feedback!!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:30 pm 
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I don`t remember where if I`m not wrong Legend Queen costs something around 6000 pounds the frame set.
I hope I`m wrong it`s a dream frrame to me.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:49 pm 
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The Queen is indeed a beautiful frame but the price tag (6K£ as atakaoka stated) is a bit... big. :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:21 am 
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Rob English has some implementations of carbon with steel, that's not titanium, but I guess he can build it with SS tubes. Image


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:21 am 
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Tommasini Carbomach is titanium main triangle with carbon rear stays.
http://www.tommasini.it/eng/titanium-frame-carbomach.php

Tommasini Carbofire has Spirit steel top tube and down tube, carbon seat tube and stays, and some pretty lugwork.
http://www.tommasini.it/eng/steel-frame-carbofire.php

Scapin Style, steel and carbon, carbon ISP.

http://www.scapin.com/ita/bici-carbonio-acciao-steel/style/gallery/


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:11 pm 
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If you're considering custom, Black Cat Bicycles also has a steel/carbon one in the gallery:
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Seven Cycles : Elium SL

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:28 pm 
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Quiring Cycles have built a bunch of MTB's so I can't imagine they'd have any problems with road frames...


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:10 am 
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scotty wrote:
I'm thinking of getting a carbon/titanium frame, the one that stands out at the moment is a Passoni Xxti.
The problem with that is the price.. :shock:


just curious - why? I have a serotta ottrott that was made for the kodak gallery sierra nevada team so it is a full gas race design...rides great. but that was at a time when full carbon had yet to come into it's own. my parlee z3c rides as nice and is lighter, and of course we now live in a world of moots RSL etc. the mixed materials bikes will always cost a lot since they, well, mix the materials... no getting around that.


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Think you missed out on that he's actually referring to Passoni being the price issue.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:27 am 
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maxxevv wrote:
Think you missed out on that he's actually referring to Passoni being the price issue.


perhaps, then again everyone else chiming in with all sorts of ti/carbon suggestions apparently did as well.

that aside, back to the topic...what is the f/f price of the XXti in question? my guess is at least $3500 USD and likely more. If OP is thinking it chould be less, perhaps this is not the material that matches his budget :-(


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