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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:10 pm 
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Praxis just released their own forged and machined rings in 52/36. Any chance the new spidering will come in that setup? PLEASE!




Really where? I want a set of those.

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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:28 pm 
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They are listed here http://praxiscycles.com/pages/standard-road-rings on the chart middle-right in red, but I can't find them in their storefront. But, that's just for their conventional rings. Maybe they haven't updated their stock yet? :noidea:

I doubt they will sell SiSL2 rings through their storefront. Isn't Cannondale known for directing you to their local dealers for almost everything in their brand? If so, I can't see why this would be any different.

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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:01 pm 
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Ahh
They are preparing the web site for em but they are not for sale just yet.. :(

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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:17 pm 
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Sorry to jump the gun there. :oops:

But still, what do you insiders or knowledgeable outsiders think our chances are of getting a 52 / 36 spidering??


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:35 am 
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There is a relatively new SiSl 2 Thread discussing aspects of the new Hollowgrams, Hollowgram components..........but the info is sort of 'all over the place'.
I wanted to ask my questions in this Thread;

1) price of the new SiSl 2 spindle in U.S. dollars
2) when will it be available as a part only
3) will this new spindle be compatible with second gen. Sl arms


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:56 pm 
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To answer #2.. the 109mm spindle kit is 60-90 days away.. I ordered one so I can use my SRM.. although I now have it working by taking a lathe to the standard 104mm axle and cutting the shoulder off.. so I am essentially installing the old spindle like the new spindle... I would assume the rest of the parts would be similar. I just want to go back to a standard Q factor...

To answer #3... thisisatest on the board here confirmed the old arms fit the new spindle for me...


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:10 pm 
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got my sisl2 crank arms today. i'll be using these on a MTB build.

i need to pull the existing arms off for comparison (2012 hollowgram SLs @ 175mm), but these come in at 122g for the drive side and 129 for the NDS for 172.5 sisl2's.

i was thinking they would save about 15g per arm -- my notes say that the 175 arms are 150g each, but after weighing the sisl2's i suspect my SL weight included the crank arm bolts. i will confirm this.

edited to update DS & NDS weights.


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:56 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:28 am 
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I just ordered the Ultegra di2 SuperSix Evo and noticed that it says on the Cannondale page that it comes with both a regular and compact Spider ring- is this true? If so, why is it pictured with shitty FSA rings?

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 Post subject: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:04 am 
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KWalker wrote:
I just ordered the Ultegra di2 SuperSix Evo and noticed that it says on the Cannondale page that it comes with both a regular and compact Spider ring- is this true? If so, why is it pictured with shitty FSA rings?


I'm pretty sure the ui2 evo doesn't come with spider rings or the sisl2.


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:02 am 
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109mm spindle is the same as all spindles: $50.


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:29 am 
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someone posted one for sale on ebay.

172.5 53/39 weight is disappointing. sram exogram with aftermarket chainrings is lighter


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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:11 pm 
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Well right here it says it comes with both: http://www.cannondale.com/2013/bikes/ro ... e-crankset

And from what I understood the spider ring can be put on any Hollowgram?

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 Post subject: Re: New Hollowgram
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:59 pm 
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I'm guess that is a website design error. That was probably meant for the more expensive himod evos. I don't think Cannondale is going to $500+ worth of chainrings on a $5000 bike.

The dealer book specifically says FSA chainrings:

http://issuu.com/csgaustralia/docs/cann ... _book_2013

KWalker wrote:
Well right here it says it comes with both: http://www.cannondale.com/2013/bikes/ro ... e-crankset" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And from what I understood the spider ring can be put on any Hollowgram?


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