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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:13 am 
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I'd love to gain an inch between doctors visits :lol:

Maybe not in my legs though...

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quick question, for the bay series criterium, why does jonathan cantwell ride for bikebug and not saxo tinkoff? (just an example). Do pros have their own teams in non-world tour races? just trying to understand why his team was bikebug.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:35 am 
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Because it was exactly that, a non-sanctioned race. They're all paid a handsome appearance fee and still have their trade team knicks and bike.

It's just an ultimate-level club race series really.

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did he approach bike bug? or was that the club he was on before going pro? what's the relationship between bike bug and him (and other pros and their non-wt teams)


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I'd say the relationship was built on what all good relationships are founded on...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:22 pm 
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Michael Rasmussen admits to doping, basically saying that he has used everything from bloodtranfusions to insulin.

He has recieved a ban, and has ended his career, but will return as DS of Christina Onfone Watches.

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Is that a second ban? Surely that means he isn't allowed to be a DS or is that only a rule for WT Teams?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:12 pm 
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My understanding is that the first ban was for whereabouts violations and so a second ban doesn't become a lifetime one. Not sure how that affects becoming DS of a team though.


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For some reason Michael Rasmussen admiting to doping annoys me so much more compared to Lance Armstrong. No idea why! :noidea: Perhaps because he played the innocent "victim" role so vehemently... I hope they dont let him back as a DS.

So looking back at all the great cycling performances of the last 25years pretty much everyone has been caught except for Andy Schleck, Sastre, Wiggins and Contador.. well not him :lol: . Is it a matter of time?

EDIT: Oh and Lemond

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:22 pm 
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You forget Indurian.



Something smells fishy when a guy that big is doing sub 40 minute Alpe D'Huez.


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I don't believe there has ever been a tour winner without, as Armstrong called it, help.

As for Ashenden the bloke is like a sulky child who takes his ball home!


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For some reason Michael Rasmussen admiting to doping annoys me so much more compared to Lance Armstrong. No idea why! :noidea: Perhaps because he played the innocent "victim" role so vehemently... I hope they dont let him back as a DS.


I didn't see hemopure mentioned explicitly.

LeMond's generation took stuff, as documented by Fignon, just not blood boosters. Indurain was likely the first Tour winner to hop on that train. It's when riders stopped having bad days.

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Kermithimself wrote:
Michael Rasmussen admits to doping, basically saying that he has used everything from bloodtranfusions to insulin.

He has recieved a ban, and has ended his career, but will return as DS of Christina Onfone Watches.


And rumor has it that he named current WT riders for using PED's


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The EPO generation was certainly of the 90's but blood transfusions were their predecessor, I seem to recall they were quite widely acknowleged to have been used in particular by the US cycling team at the 84 olympics and banned in 85. I would seriously doubt if that stopped it being used as there was no test for it. That would includethe generation of Fignon, Hinault Lemond et al.

Not saying any of them did or didnt use it but you could certainly have "not doped"


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